alternative to nos?
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alternative to nos?
I was wondering if anyone has ever tried to put an air tank with an air compressor on it and run it to the air intake and whenever you need a boost open a valve for it... it seems like it would be similar to a supercharger depending on how much boost it would have obviously it would only be a sudden boost though... anyways i was just curious cause i think it would be kinda inexpensive to do and it wouldnt harm your engine like nos would..if anyone out there knows if it would work let me know.
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thomas dupree
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I've pondered that thought myself, but I see several problems.
1. In order to store enough cubic feet of air, the tank would have to be remotely located.
2. In order to deliver enough air to make a difference, you would have to have one heck of a valve and tube deliver system to run from your remote tank to your intake.
3. It takes time for a standard air compressor to fill a lot of volume, as they are designed to build high pressures, and not volumes. Superchargers and turbos move a lot of air in a hurry at lower pressures by comparison.
4. Pressures and volumes of air must be somewhat proportional to RPM's, so some method of determining air required would be needed.
There is an advantage I could think of though. You could already filter the air before it was stored in the tank, so you could bypass the air filter and drop straight into the intake.
If you could get it to work it might be kind of cool, but I would think you would be surprised at how much time and $$$ would spend for the very intermitent quick boosts you might get out of it.
I do however want an underhood belt driven compressor and 20 gallon tank mounted under my bed for running air tools and airing up tires. This along with a big power inverter and PKRWUD's remote battery posts would make one heck of a portable work site. One of these days....
1. In order to store enough cubic feet of air, the tank would have to be remotely located.
2. In order to deliver enough air to make a difference, you would have to have one heck of a valve and tube deliver system to run from your remote tank to your intake.
3. It takes time for a standard air compressor to fill a lot of volume, as they are designed to build high pressures, and not volumes. Superchargers and turbos move a lot of air in a hurry at lower pressures by comparison.
4. Pressures and volumes of air must be somewhat proportional to RPM's, so some method of determining air required would be needed.
There is an advantage I could think of though. You could already filter the air before it was stored in the tank, so you could bypass the air filter and drop straight into the intake.
If you could get it to work it might be kind of cool, but I would think you would be surprised at how much time and $$$ would spend for the very intermitent quick boosts you might get out of it.
I do however want an underhood belt driven compressor and 20 gallon tank mounted under my bed for running air tools and airing up tires. This along with a big power inverter and PKRWUD's remote battery posts would make one heck of a portable work site. One of these days....
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Not harming the engine?
Wouldn't you be creating an extremely lean condition when a spurt of air is injected to the intake. Think about pulling a vacuum line off your engine while running. Remember rich is ok, lean can crack pistons. Also remember nitro is a fuel, not exactly the same as o2. Nos is a great tool, but you have to be careful. I will never run it because I like my truck too much, it seems you kinda feel the same way.
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Yeah, the air would be closer to a blower or turbo result. It would have to be routed through the MAF system so the computer would sense the air increase and calculate the proper mixture. Not the same as a vacuum leak, which enters past the metering device.
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I think I read some where that some poeple are using propane as a NOS alt..But,remember you dont have to use a 200 shot of NOS.N2O can be fun and safe if you are careful.Putting a 50 shot on your truck wouldnt hurt it abit.You could even run it dry(no extra fuel).Just get a proper chip and plugs and a way you go.Just my0.2 worth
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Hmmm...
I've seen propane injection on powerstrokes and cummins at the track, but not on gas engines. Some vehicles were converted to propane in the '80's, but the HP numbers were less on a propane engine. Can it be used on a gas engine for a power boost??
Propane is cheap I got 20 bottles at work. 
I've seen propane injection on powerstrokes and cummins at the track, but not on gas engines. Some vehicles were converted to propane in the '80's, but the HP numbers were less on a propane engine. Can it be used on a gas engine for a power boost??
Propane is cheap
I got 20 bottles at work.
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I cant remember if it was on gas or deisel.Ill find out what I can and post Monday night.Alot of our city vehicles here in Fl run on propane buses,utility vehicles,fork lifts etc.But straight propane makes no power.No smog niether..But if I was worried about that I would of bought a honda hybrid(electric)right.