I am getting my radiatory replaced today. Special thanks to fdburgess and Paul Boyd for sending me copies of their service invoices. I am happy this hassel is finally over.

 

 

Well just got my new truck last night. Boy is it pretty!!!! It did have two flaws, bad paint job on drivers side passenger door and of course the wrong size radiator. Service manager said he will fix the paint and look into the radiator thing. I feel it will be taken care of with no problems, this is the 9th auto we've purchased from their dealership.

I stated earlier that when I picked up the truck I state how I faired using the X-Plan.
Truck MSRP = $27,890.00
Dealer Invoice = $24,866.00
X-Plan Price = $24,466.00
Rebate = $1,000.00
Total = 23,466.00

Also, the X-Plan can be used to get a discount on the ESP.

Now I have to decide on which mod. to install. So many mod's, so little time.....

Thanks for all the great information.

Don


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2001 F150 SC 2X4
Arizona Beige
Short Box
5.4L
3.55 LS
Captain's Chairs
Power Seats
Sliding Rear Window
Tow Package
Ordered 4/11
Delivered 5/10
**1.01 Radiator**

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Walley Man--

I was so excited yesterday about getting the radiator that I misinformed everybody.
Here is the letter from my area rep to my service manager...

Some F150 owners that purchased the class 3 towing package did not receive the upgraded radiator-as publizized.Research and engineering found the larger radiator unnecessary but was unable to communicate that to publications-in time.The PVT is working on a resolution. If the customer is adament about having the radiator installed-the dealer can go ahead and install one.However, there may be some other options(as I showed in my previous post) being offered which the customer would not be eligible for if the larger radiator is installed. Again, the resolutions mentioned have not been approved yet.I would ask cutomer to wait for a little while until we have a clear answer.

I decided to get the radiator now instead of waiting.

And you can see Ford is now installing the SC radiators.

Have a nice and SC day.

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OK dang-it, all this has made me decide to double check mine now too. Man.....I thought I would just get myself by without worrying about it.

Anyhow, I keep seeing mention that Ford should be doing a Recall and so on. They won't and shouldn't need to do a Recall. WAIT, don't scream yet! A Recall generally addresses a safety related issue. Something that has the potential to cause harm or a dangerous or damaging situation. If the radiator had the potential to fail or explode etc., a recall would be in order.
However, if you took a truck that has the smaller radiator and put it to work "properly" towing or hauling the maximnum of what it is rated for in the most reasonably extreme conditions, there is probably only a fraction of a percent *if any* that would actually over heat to the point of a dangerous or damaging immediate failure. Granted, it may certainly cause long term problems that might shorten the life of the truck or parts of the truck not to mention that you/we paid for the extra cooling capacity and it would definetly benefit from that extra cooling capacity, but I'm willing to bet that the difference in cooling capacity from the 1.02" to the 1.42" or 2.02" wouldn't cause an immediate failure. An inconveniance or a real concern at the increased temp. which could effect it's drivability and power, maybe.

Ok, I hope I didn't give anyone any reasons for flaming but if you think about it, I think you'll see my point.

HOWEVER, don't stop reading and start flaming yet!! Let me stress, if your truck has the wrong radiator, whether you'll ever come close to needing that additional cooling or not, if you decide you want it replaced/resolved by Ford, you damn well have every right to and and at minimal inconveniance to you. Further, Ford damn well has every obligation to do it with a smile! Ok, maybe a smile is asking too much. At least, like many of you are finding is happening, the dealer should do it with a smile on behalf of Ford.

Now here I go to measure mine and man, I hope it's right because if it's not, I'll be knocking on Payton-Wright Ford's door like a pack of Amway sales people trying to win a trip to Disney World!!

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• Estate Green
• 5.4 ltr
• 3:55 LS rear
• Superchip!
• Airaid FIPK
• Gibson S/S Swept Side Cat Back Exhaust
• Hellwig Rear Anti-Sway Bar
• Energy Suspension Polyurethane Front Anti-Sway Bar Bushings
• Edelbrock Performer IAS Shocks
• Mobil 1
• Xenon Super White Head and Driving Lights
• Tow Package
• Rear Load Leveling
• Moonroof
• Century Child Seat!

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Y2kOffRoad

What station was it on? I wished I had seen that one.

Courtesy Ford is replacing mine with no questions asked. The service manager called and Ford said to replace it. Waiting for it to come in now.

Good luck!

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WIXT Channel 9 ran it as one of Your Stories. The story which was titled "Leasing a Lemon" aired yesterday at the top of the 5:30 news cast and once again at 11. I received a call from the owner of the dealership offering me a more generous settlement, still not what I was asking though. I did agree to come out and see him after lunch so we might reach a deal afterall, but I'm still highly skeptical.

Dan Cummings who gave the interview asked me to call him once a resolution was in place so they could do a follow up story. It was so nice finally getting the word out about the hassles that I've received from Ford! I have been very surprised at the supportive response I've received from people who watched it. Very comforting!

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2000 F-150 XLT *LEMON*.

Lemon: Rail Dust, Wrong Radiator, Defective Transfer Case, Oil Leak by Torque Convertor, Intermittant Air Bag MIL, Popping Rear Window, Clunking/Creaking RF Wheel, Dealer-Installed Bug Shield Damaged Grill, and Squeaky Seat Belt.

Ford is giving me a run-around trying to fix ths truck!!!

Truck: Reg Cab/Long Box, Styleside, Oxford White, Dark Graphite Int., 4x4, 4.6L, 3.55 L/S, Off-Road pkg (Skid Plates, Cab Steps, Heavy Duty Shock Absorbers, LT265/70R17SL), Class III Towing pkg with Heavy Duty Cooling pkg, 4 wheel disk ABS, Overhead Console, Factory In-Dash CD, Remote Keyless Entry, and Sliding Rear Window.

Mods: Superchip, Cabin Air Filtration, Ventvisors, Ford Bug Deflector, Ford Bedliner.

2000 Polaris Sportsman 500, Camo Green, 4x4, 499cc 4-stroke, independent suspension, shaft drive, 4 wheel disc brakes, etc.

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Y2K,

Glad to hear something is starting to work in your favor. I'm dissapointed I missed the broadcast. I was going to suggest you try Chan. 9 "Your Stories".. Glad you did.

Keep us informed how you make out.

I will be getting my 1.42" radiator installed next week. It came in and we even measured it. Roughly 1 1/2". Looks good to me.



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'01 F-150 SuperCrew XLT
Oxford White/Arizona Beige
4x4 5.4L Triton V8
Slider Rear Window
Keyless Remote
Cab Steps
Trailer Tow Group
Bed Extender
Drop in Bed Liner
Downey SST Tonneau Cover
Future Add ons:
Bug Deflector (Christmas Present)
Husky Liner Floor Mats

http://hometown.aol.com/tspern/F150SuperCrewpage1.html

 

The problem is they are still charging the same amount for the towing package, while not giving you a substantial part of it. It really doesn't matter how effective the 1.02" is. The price of the package has not changed in years and plenty of older trucks got what they should have gotten. They are also still saying in all of their publications/advertising that you receive a upgraded radiator as part of the two package.

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2000 F150 XLT 4x4 Short Bed. Amazon Green, 5.4L, SuperCab, ORP, Tow Package, Sliding Rear Window, Electronic Shift, Keyless Entry, LT265-70-17 Tires, Clarion Pro Audio, Herculiner Bedliner, Air Silencer Removed.

1994 SVT Mustang Cobra. #1032 of 6009. Black coupe with black leather int., 3.73 rear, Bassani Exhaust, Aluminum D/S, Bridgestone RE-71 255-45-ZR17

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I,too,was cheated. I chose the Heavy Duty Elecrical/Cooling option, but my rad core measures 1 inch. My 2001 f150 XLT SC 5.4L was built in Norfolk and delivered in late Sept 2000. Thanks to all who discovered this .....ahem.....dis crap ancy . rbaron1@erols.com

 

Y2K,

I just replied to your post in General Discussion.

https://www.f150online.com/f150board...ML/002583.html

I won't ramble here too....

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2000 EDDIE BAUER EXPEDITION 4x2

• Estate Green
• 5.4 ltr
• 3:55 LS rear
• Superchip!
• Airaid FIPK
• Gibson S/S Swept Side Cat Back Exhaust
• Hellwig Rear Anti-Sway Bar
• Energy Suspension Polyurethane Front Anti-Sway Bar Bushings
• Edelbrock Performer IAS Shocks
• Mobil 1
• Xenon Super White Head and Driving Lights
• Tow Package
• Rear Load Leveling
• Moonroof
• Century Child Seat!

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About the 1.02 radiator being adequate. First, I have had mine replaced with the 1.42 inch radiator and believe that you should get what you were promised.

However, I work in Death Valley and drove around all last summer in 110-120 degree heat with the 1.02 and the temp gauge never moved. I even towed with it. So, I think Ford is correct in saying that this radiator is adequate and those of you with it do not need to be to worry about your truck self-destructing. Ford just screwed up by not publishing their change in their spec sheets and literature. Probably thought that since trucks were not overheating, no one would notice.

You have to wonder who made the decision to put the smaller radiator in the tow-package trucks though. This has happened too many times and over too great a time period to have been an accident.

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2000 F150 XLT SuperCab, Short Bed, 4X4, ORP, 5.4L, Auto Trans, 3.55LS, Captains Chairs with power drivers seat, rear slider, class III towing package, remote entry with alarm and just about everything you can get on this truck. Added a Ford bug deflecter, floor mats, a Dynamax Race magnum muffler and 3" mandrel bent pipes, Superchip, K&N FIPK Gen II, Bilstein shocks, Redline Synthetic oil, Kenwood stereo system, an MTX Thunder 204 4 channel amp, ProComp AT 33/12.50/17 tires and 17X8 American Racing Python wheels.

 

Can someone point me to the exact link
for the upgraded radiator in the 2001
source book....Where is states 2.2" core
for Super Cooling.Thx, Tmeyers-Colorado

 

On a 2001 the spec for the Super Cooling radiator is 1.42" single core. Here is the link for the online source book.

http://fordtruck.fordtraining.com/cg...=17&buttonid=4

Scroll down to the Technical Specifications section and select Cooling System Specifications.

 

I had my radiator changed and got the 2 row upgrade. What was odd was when we ordered it (I had my choice either 1.42 in. or 2.20 in. 2 row) I asked the parts guy which one cost the most and he said the 1.42 inch.!!!!