Hi ecm747x,

Thanks for calling the other day, I enjoyed being able to speak with you, especially the information about planes, etc. I think I'll feel a lot better about flying these days after having spoken with you, so thanks very much for that, you have no idea how re-assuring your comments were, it's great to hear that from an "insider".

Glad to hear your installation went well, and that your enjoying the Superchip.

Have fun,

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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Performance Products F150Online Superchip ordering system: F150Online Superchip Ordering System
First National F-150 Online Rally Event Organizer

 

Hello all,


I ordered my Superchip last Friday. I talked to Mike for about 10 minutes before he had to go. Mike at Superchips is a very good source of information on the install and other power train items.
For all you people who are on the fence about getting one. Well, I would have to say it is time to get off, funding not with standing, and get it.
The installation is easy and straight forward. Just care needs to be taken in removing the varnish on the contactors. The instructions are easy to read and follow as well.
Now for the good parts. The shifting is so much improved. Solid shifts and no more time delay. Power, well just hold on! Not only is there a noticable improvement it just makes that 5.4 realy perform. The shifting increased 200 rpm to 5200 and top end, well it doesn't stop at 98 like it did and it does get there much quicker. From a standing start it was spinning the tires when before I would get a little chirp or so. Then the limited slip kicked in and I was off!
I am very satisfied with the improved performance and would recommend this product to anyone who just wants more out of their vehicle, whether it be for towing or what ever. If this sounds like a testimonial then so be it...It is well worth the bucks!

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ecm747x

2001 SUPER CREW XLT, BRIGHT RED
5.4L Triton, automatic 3.55 gears limited slip
tow package
16" tires
side steps
bed extender
ford/duraliner bed liner
60/40 seats
6cd changer
moonroof
sliding rear window

Soon to come Mods...

Adding AirForce One F.I.P.K. Installing different exhaust, not sure which yet. Front grill guard. With light kit


MODS....
1) Lund x-terminator bug shield
2) Super Chip>>>>Well Worth the Money



[This message has been edited by ecm747x (edited 11-29-2000).]

 

I've had my chip for months now. I would NEVER go back. I agree that the shifts alone are worth it. But what I did to a 5.4 Super Cab and Expy when the 3 of us were at a light together. I figured to beat the heavy Expy, but my big ol' SCrew eased ahead of the SCab until the shift, then he was done, roasted. That damn stock soft shift should get some Ford engineer fired!

Love my chip, no problems ever.

When I got it, chips had their own section in the aftermarket section. What gives?

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2001 SuperCrew 4x4 Lariat 5.4/4-spd auto, 3.55 l/s, elec xfer case, skids, cab steps Class III tow, Stock 17"s, Oxford White/Med Graphite leather capts chairs, Rhinolined, SUPERCHIPS equipped
Planned: K&N FIPK (When they get the CARB # for 2001's...or maybe sooner)

 

Does the Superchip require premium gas and if so, what octane?

 

Hey that superchip sounds like a great mod!!! $225 for a easy power boost not to mention adjusted shift points!!! Make the power increase mean something!!

the 'chip plus a K&N sound like the dynamite duo!!!

My fatherinlaw has a F250 supercab long box with the diesel--sounds like this would make a great gift for him, but he trades his trucks in every few years. Be fun, anyways!

--karl

 

A $225 entry fee, then higher octane forever when regular old 87 octane is RECOMMENDED.

I really like the added power and shifting smoothness, but what am I missing here?

When it comes down to it, I could handle the extra $$ for the gas because I ran premium in my prior cars for many years. I'm really concerned about the effect on the engine using the higher octane when it's not recommended.

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2001 SuperCrew, Lariat, DWBlue/Beige, Tow Package, 5.4 Triton V-8, Ltd-slip Diff., Sliding rear window, 6 Cd, and Moonroof. Ordered 07-17-00 and delivered 10-6-00. $200 under invoice from Mike Buckley at Al Bilton Ford in Holly Hill SC (803-496-3150).

MODS: Uhh, let's see, I treated the leather and sealed the paint. Does that count?

 

Leeman,


87 octane is recomended for the stock computer system. With the chip installed your fuel and timing curves are changed. The timing is advanced therefore needing the slower burning premium fuel. This also will keep the engine from "pinging" due to the advancement in the timing. I have picked up about 1.7 mpg with the chip installed and that is just a .009, (less than 1 cent per mile) increase in operating cost. SO in the long run I feel it is well worth the price for the performance gains, not to mention the better shifting on the transmission. This reduces the wear on it since the time delay is now gone in between the shifts. I am not telling you what to do but in my opinion, and this is why I installed the super chip. The gains more than out weigh any costs, and it has no ill efects on the engine. Actually just the opposite, better performance.

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ecm747x

2001 SUPER CREW XLT, BRIGHT RED
5.4L Triton, automatic 3.55 gears limited slip
tow package
16" tires
side steps
bed extender
ford/duraliner bed liner
60/40 seats
6cd changer
moonroof
sliding rear window

Soon to come Mods...

Adding AirForce One F.I.P.K. Installing different exhaust, not sure which yet. Front grill guard. With light kit


MODS....
1) Lund x-terminator bug shield
2) Super Chip>>>>Well Worth the Money

 

Leeman,

The octane increase won't cause any damage with or without a chip. As stated above it is needed to prevent detonation and reap the benefits from the timing changes in the chip.

As for the gas issue, I did some figuring. Based on the "average" estimated mileage increase with the chip, 12,000 miles per year (mostly city), on my '95 302 4x4. It came down to about $75 bucks a year. $6.25 a month or .21 a day! Considering the low inital cost and the benefits, a small price to pay.

The only possible way the chip isn't a solid bang for the buck is if total operating cost and economy are of a greater concern than performance.

I'm planning on getting a chip with my next mods. With my igntion and pulleys already in place, I'm hoping to get my (mostly city) average close to 17 mpg!

 

So, for those manual transmission guys that own 4.2's (sniff sniff), the only difference that the superchip provides is more power? I sure as hell want more power, but i was wondering what else it does for the engine if anything...

~¤MarK¤~

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¤1999 F-150 supercab w/ a big ole 4.2L
¤BFGoodrich 265/75R's
¤16" Eagle Alloys series 589
¤Billet Alluminum Grille
¤Pioneer DEH-P9200
¤800 Watt Power Acoustik Fire and Ice Amplifier for the XLC's
¤2400 Watt Power Acoustik "1 Ohm series" for the Power DVC's
¤2 10" Punch XLC's
¤2 12" Punch Power DVC's
¤Custom Door Poppers
¤Power locks...etc..etc

Fightin Texas Aggie Class of '02 WHOOP!

 

Thanks for the reply. Maybe Santa will be good to himself.

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2001 SuperCrew, Lariat, DWBlue/Beige, Tow Package, 5.4 Triton V-8, Ltd-slip Diff., Sliding rear window, 6 Cd, and Moonroof. Ordered 07-17-00 and delivered 10-6-00. $200 under invoice from Mike Buckley at Al Bilton Ford in Holly Hill SC (803-496-3150).

MODS: Uhh, let's see, I treated the leather and sealed the paint. Does that count?

 

For those wondering, you use 87 octane only with the *factory* powertrain programming. When the engine is re-tuned with the Superchip, then you are required to run premium gasoline. Your owner's manual tells you to use 87 octane simply because that is what it is programmed for from the factory, not because using premium will actually damage your engine in any way. Using premium with the factory program can actually cause driveabiliuty issues, such as reduced power & mileage and a "soggy" throttle response, depending on the fuel formulation of course, some people use premium with the factory program and have no such driveability issues. But that is basically why your owner's manual tells you to use 87 octane and not to use premium, simply because that is how it is tuned from the factory.

The point being, this is all revolving around the actual burn rate of the fuel, as ecm stated in his response. Premium fuel burns slower, so you have to have more time for it to burn, which is adjusted via the powertrain program.

There is no long-term negative effect from using the Superchip, it will not harm or damage the engine, of course.

Another point I wanted to mention is that whether you have a manual or automatic transmission, the *engine* gets the same basic power gains from the Superchip, the only difference is that since there is no automatic transmission to firm the shifts up on, you don't have that aspect in the Superchip program, that's all. All the other benefits are just the same, with the exception of the fact that manual transmission models will see more of that power gain from the Superchip get to the rear wheels, just because manual transmissions take less power to turn than automatics do, naturally.

Our bests to all for a Merry Christmas!

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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Performance Products F150Online Superchip ordering system: F150Online Superchip Ordering System
First National F-150 Online Rally Event Organizer

[This message has been edited by Superchips_Distributor (edited 12-08-2000).]

 

Do the chips eliminate the top speed govenor?

 

Steve Yes the top end gov. is eliminated.....

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ecm747x

2001 SUPER CREW XLT, BRIGHT RED
5.4L Triton, automatic 3.55 gears limited slip
tow package
16" tires
side steps
bed extender
ford/duraliner bed liner
60/40 seats
6cd changer
moonroof
sliding rear window

Soon to come Mods...

Adding AirForce One F.I.P.K. Installing different exhaust, not sure which yet. Front grill guard. With light kit


MODS....
1) Lund x-terminator bug shield
2) Super Chip>>>>Well Worth the Money

 

Hi Steve,

Yes, the Superchip normally removes the top speed limiter in these vehicles. The factory top speed limiter in the 1997 & newer F-150's is 98-108 mph, and is set to match the speed rating of your tires, basically.

If you'd like to go over any aspects of the Superchip in detail, please feel free to give us a shout, our contact info is below, and we're always happy to help.

Merry Christmas!

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Mike Troyer
Performance Products, Inc.
National Distributor of Superchips
(540) 862-9515
Email: mtroyer@compuserve.com
Performance Products F150Online Superchip ordering system: F150Online Superchip Ordering System
First National F-150 Online Rally Event Organizer

 

I recently switched to running premium gas in my truck and after my second tank my mileage went up 1.5 mpg. So in the long run my fuel costs are about the same. Calculating if my mileage went up 2 mpg I would save about $200 per year, almost enough to pay for a superchip. With the firmed-up shifts on the transmission this should be attainable and enhance the mods I've already done.

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'97 F150 4.6L XL WHITE,FLEETSIDE R/C L/B, LEER SHELL W/FISHING POLE RACK, BED MAT,LIMMITED SLIP,245/75/16 DESERT DOGS ON POLISHED ALUM, WHEELS.
AIRAID, 3" CAT BACK OUT THE SIDE w/MAGNAFLOW MUFFER