Well said Bubbadewsky

 

LMAO Bubbadewsky...

I think alot of us inlcuding myself should take a lesson from Bubba and lighten up. There are many ways to skin a cat...all of which are right to someone and wrong to others. A person can make it as hard or as easy as they wish. Maybe in the case of valve covers the cab would not need to be pulled. But if the shop can do it and prefers it that way so be it. If its under warranty dont sweat it, let them do it like they do it...if you are paying out of pocket then make sure they do it the cheapest and safest way possible.

Nuff said...I got more important stuff to take care of. My significant other is in a much better mood tonight and wants to find other ways to "do the job."

 

Fordby4, personally I would tell your friend to find another dealership. If my dealership that I take my '94 to, told me that they had to take my cab off to change the oil pan gasket and pan itself. I would them where to go and find someone else !!! It is bad enough that they had to lift my engine to get to the oil pan and gasket.

As far as the job goes, I can not see how hard it could be to change valve cover gaskets on these motors WITHOUT removing the cab. Ford wouldn't have been that crazy as to put the motors where they would be so expensive to fix if something happened to it. Think of all the flack that Ford would get if the customer had to pay to have the cab removed to fix the engine after warranty is done everytime. I would be saying that they fix it or they would be losing a customer. It just doesn't make sense !!!

Now, that his question has been answered. I have a problem with a few members that state that Neal isn't that fast. Yes, he isn't as fast as some of the Lightning are but he is getting there. He is currently running a "documented" 14.52 in the quarter mile. This is with 60 ft. time that equal me at 2.5 and 2.6 seconds. Other than the day that he ran the 14.52, he has had consistant 2.0 - 2.1 60 ft. times. So that would put him into the 14.00 - 14.20 second bracket. If you don't think that is fast then I guess all those Lightning guys running 13.5 - 13.8 stock, should just trade in their slow trucks right !!!!!!! Give your head a shake. Some of the Lightning guys are now into the 11's with these trucks so don't tell me that they are fast at 11 or 12 seconds and Neal is slow with his 14.52 seconds. You want to see slow, come and watch me run down the track sometime with my '94 Supercab, long box, 3.55 LS, 302 5000 lbs. truck. Then you will see slow !!! Oh and by the way, I have a best "documented" time of 17.4 in the quarter mile.

Have Fun & Keep on Truckin'
Dean

 

IZZYEDDY... 14.52 is 14.52, if it can run better lets see it but until then thats is the number fast, slow or otherwise. my fastest runs are not neccesarily my best 60 ft or best m.p.h and any body who races knows that you cant take your best 60 ft. plus your best 1/8 mile than your best 1/4 and best mph and add them together to make the "my truck should run XX.XX next time i run it. Oh well that is racing! .
i know a service writer at big dealerships and he claims that that is were the dealership makes alot of money so never asume what that ford will build something so that it is easily servicable. I bet that everyone out there that has turned a wrench on any car has made the statement " i would love to get ahold of the engineer who designed this piece of chit"

did i read somewhere on this sight that neal had pulled his a/c and sway bars in the quest to go faster?

 

Brotherdave, yes 14.52 is 14.52 but what I was trying to say was that he was losing traction BIG TIME !!!!!!!!!! If he had gotten traction like he did before at that track and had the same 60 ft times then he would have been 14.00 - 14.2 in the quarter. That is all I was saying. And with those times, he closely knocking on the doors of stock Lightnings. The day that we went to the track, it was a little colder than normal and they weren't keeping up with the proper maintance on the track (VHT) while we were running. Everyone was having problems there. Even I was having problems hooking at the starting line and I NEVER had problems with my 3.55 and 5000 lbs. That is why I am saying, he is actually faster than he is on paper !!!

The reason the A/C stuff came off of the truck is because A) he never uses it !!! and B) the compressor blew and he wasn't about to pay well over $450 to have all of the work done on it and for something that he never uses !!!

He does take his traction bars off when he goes to the track. The lightnings guy do it, to get better traction. When the front bar is off, the front of the truck comes up which in turn forces more weight to the rear of the truck. Hence more down force on the tires, better traction. So, Neal has just take an idea from some the Lightning guys and ran with it. No pun intended !!! LOL !!!!

Have Fun & Keep on Truckin'
Dean

 

maybe you are right...when does the track open?

 

The tracks should open in April sometime. I just hope I can get my headers on before we go so I can see how it helps the truck breath.

Have Fun & Keep on Truckin'
Dean

 

Oh and BTW Neal...

I actually HAVE worked on and been behind more horsepower than you. Try a 2,000 HP Super Stock Tractor Puller. Next please?

 

HI!... MN4X4 : I was'nt going to respond to this thread anymore, but since you still want to try to be childish, then fine I'll respond. So you say you have worked on and sat behind a 2000H.P SUPER STOCK TRACTOR PULLER. Have you just sat, or have you actually run it (DRIVEN) in competition down the track???? Probably not. Hey, if you want to play those games, then fine. Hey! I've sat behind a over 6000H.P TOP fuel dragster in the pits once! Hey I even sat in the ****pit of a F-18 fighter jet. Your point being????? This is my point exactly! CHILDISH. You keep dredging up stuff to argue about, with stuff that was said a couple of days ago. You know what? No one cares!!!!! The funny thing is ever since this thread started to get stupid, I've had like 40 E-MAILS of people agreeing with me and laughing at you two guys and some other comments as well. I'm here to contribute to this site and hopefully learn some things too. If you want to argue and bicker then leave and go to a chevy site. By the way, I read your PROFILE. Your 21 and drive a "93" CHEVY pick-up. Unless you hav'nt updated your PROFILE and currently own a F-150. Your on this site because? Hey it's a free country and everyone's welcome. I'm just curious?

P.S : Thanks for trying to help IZZY EDDY (DEAN), but don't waste your time with these guys. Your just feeding the fuel to the fire and some people will never learn.

I apologize to the rest of the F-150 community to have to read and put up with this thread. Hopefully the WEBMASTER (STEVE) will read this and close it. Mabey then we can get back to trying to help eachother out and enjoy our F-150's. PEACE.

 

neal what track do you go to???

 

HI!... EX91 : I usually race at ST. THOMAS (LONDON DRAGWAY) or MILAN DRAGWAY. I'd like to try GRAND BEND. Been there, just hav'nt raced on it yet. The RANGER won't be out this year. It's still get some chassis work and I'm currently working on the new 408. Surprisingly, I'm having more fun with my F-150 right now, go figure!LOL!

 

I dont want to take any sides here...Sitting behide the wheel is entirerly different from driving it...Which is entirely different from driving it on a regular basis...You have to be consistant to get a good E.T.

14.52 is NOWHERE close to a low 13 stock lighting, which is no where close to a 12.2 modified lightning...


If I can recall "Book time" on a job is the same as if you take the cab off or do it with the cab on...they only pay so much to do a job. On the case of the oil pan...the job pays the same if you jack the engine up and can do it or if you pull the engine out of the vehicle...

I know that I would look at it with an open mind and if properly equipped garage, would pull the cab if it was quicker--because you are going to do a lot better job on the heads if you can get to them easier...No one can argue that point!!!!

Now valve cover gaskets is another story....

Neal--if you can do 5.4 plug change in 35 minutes(which I dont doubt) you should be able to make big bucks as a mechanic!!!!

You are making more then this building houses????

 

HI!... MACH1 : I don't build houses, it's not that kind of construction I'm involved in. I'm involved in heavy construction. I work for a company that installs main sanitary, main storm, and water mains on city and private property. Sometimes 25ft down in the ground. And yes the hours are worse, but the $$ is ten times better then when I was a mechanic. Plus I'm ouside all day which I like. As for stock LIGHTNINGS. Most of the bone stock "L"s around here "99" - "2000" are only running 14.20's - 13.80's ET'S. I've run several stock ones at the local tracks and on the street and have only lost to them by 1 to 2 truck lengths. Usually on the top end. Up to the top of 2ND gear I'm usually right next to them. Modified ones are a different story of coarse. Not bad for me still being N/A and have traction and top end fuel problems. It would be a bit more than 2 lengths with the newer LIGHTNINGS, but I hav'nt had a chance yet to run one. Mabey this year at the track.

 

Neal...I didnt just sit behind it, I drove it. While I did not pull in competition I have had the opportunity on several occasions to pull with it while undergoing testing. Let me tell you that is a rush. I am considering pulling in competition as I have made several full pulls.

Neal you are the one who brought the subject up in the first place claiming, unknowingly btw, that you had worked on and been behind more HP then me which was supposed to mean that you are supposedly more superior. So if I am childish by saying what I did then you are just as guilty.

I am here to contribute and learn as well. And if you bothered to pay attention I think you would find that I am trying to be helpful...not just argue. Yes I own a Chevy, I also own a Ford that unfortunately is not running at this point. As for why I am here...I am looking at buying a Ford in the future. Maybe an F-150, maybe a Super Duty. I am 21, in college and I cant afford to have a new truck so I like to keep up on what is going on with the Fords so I can make an educated decision on my next used truck. For now my Chevy has 170,000 miles and its paid for. It runs perfect and needs nothing more than normal maintenance. I expect another 100,000 miles out of it.

As for the tractor pulling...they are owned and run by another local farmer that we know very well. Last year I went to pulling events around the state with them, turning wrenches and learning as much as possible. In the future I hope to be able to start pulling myself when my finances allow.

Now I apologize Neal if I have offended you or anyone else. That was not my intention...I just like a good spirited discussion every now and then!

 

HI!... MN4X4 : Mabey I should of been more clear in the post I made a few days ago. When I stated that I have probably been behind more H.P than you, it was'nt meant to be all at one time. What I meant that with all the vehicles I've built and have helped build and have ACTUALLY takin down the strip/street would most likely be around 8000 - 10,000H.p over the years. If you've been able to drive something with 2000H.P then good for you. The funnest time I've had at the stirp would be in a buddies mid 8 second PRO STREET MUSTANG. Now that was a ball!!!!!!!