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Ladder29 11-30-2000 11:23 PM

Detonation Follow-up
 
Well the dealer had my truck for the past 5 days and said it doesn't ping anymore. I asked what he did and he told me he reprogrammed the fuel parameters to 8.7 and cleaned the EGR valve and checked the hoses.
I drove home...No Pinging .. Out of curiosity I checked to see if the Fuel Bar was in place...GONE... I asked the dealer where it was and he said they must of forgot to put it back on. I told them to put it back on. On the way home the PINGING was back!
It's time to have a serious talk with the service guys and get the Rep involved. Will keep you posted.

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98 F-250 LD E.C. 4x4,4.6 litre,K&N filter,tow pkg.,3.73rear,off-road pkg.,LT265/75R16



black f150 offroad 12-01-2000 06:59 AM

so why are u so worried about the shorting bar being removed, the 99's and later dont even have them. All it does is drop timing a couple of degrees, it does not effect advance or anything like that ( its not a spout connector ), its actully quite common to remove the bar, otherwise u can go into the pcm and reprogram the octane adjust internally with a ngs, by the way the oil imprgnated filter can effect your fuel trims if u over oil


Ladder29 12-01-2000 10:12 AM

Black,
Doesn't removing the fuel bar affect your power and fuel milage? Doesn't it remove the PCM's ability to control ignition timing functions?

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98 F-250 LD E.C. 4x4,4.6 litre,K&N filter,tow pkg.,3.73rear,off-road pkg.,LT265/75R16



black f150 offroad 12-02-2000 05:44 PM

Did your service department reprogramm the pcm, there is a tsb on this concern wich calls for a pcm reprograming, 97-98 cant remember it may only cover 5.4 though, but the wds only takes about 10 min to reprogramm the pcm if there is an updated calibration

black f150 offroad 12-02-2000 06:11 PM

o by the way ladder29 i dont know what he was talking about the 8.7, when u reprogram it does it automatically , if he was talking about the fuel trim was at 8.7% after reprogramming that is a bit high, he should chek maf voltage

Ladder29 12-02-2000 11:55 PM

I called the service manager today (12/2) but he was off . The person I talked to said the manager talked to Ford yesterday about my situation. He didn't know what they said but the manager will call me Monday to give me a full report. I will keep you posted of the outcome. Thanks for the input / advice from all of you.

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98 F-250 LD E.C. 4x4,4.6 litre,K&N filter,tow pkg.,3.73rear,off-road pkg.,LT265/75R16



46red 12-03-2000 12:12 AM

Thank you to all who have keep this topic open. I have the same problem with pinging etc. The dealers answer was only to remove the shorting bar and send me home. The pinging is less now but I wish it was gone for good. Power seems to be down a little also. Lets keep this thread alive untill someone, Ford, has a solution.

46red 12-05-2000 03:06 PM

reply to black150, no the dealer did no reprogramming, he just took off the bar and sent me home, this was their only solution.

black f150 offroad 12-06-2000 05:41 PM

ok what i do is clean the maf, run combution chamber cleaner throught the engine and somtime remove the octane bar (97-98 equipped only), ford has combustion chamber clean that u suck throught the intake, used to use it a lot on probes, the reason i sometimes remove the bar is depending on wheter the vehicle is city driven , if so more carbon built up as it gennerally never gets fully warmed up and that the concern may reoccure and if it does ford will take what i was payed to fix it in the first place away so basically i am covering my butt


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