FYI,
I stopped by the ford dealership just to see how much they charged for a oil change. $30 I said WHAT! The service guy begins to tell me that the triton engines take 7 qts of oil and this is why they charge more...I told him that the owners manual says 6 qts. He said the manual was wrong...I don't think so....Suspicious?????

I run 6.o qts...until further notice.

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1999 F-150 XLT SuperCab 2WD, Gold/Tan, 5.4L
MFG date 5/99
Mobile1/802s

 

ksdoxey,
Your dealer is right!! The manual is wrong. The 5.4 engine takes 7 quarts. Bugman.

 

My 99 4.2L took about 6.5 quarts. $30 smackers is cheap man...I was paying $76 for my 4.2L. (Fully synthetic.) Now I just pay Ford to do it...$24.99.

-AR

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2001 F-150 XLT 4X4 Off-Road, S/C, FS, Black
- 4.6L Triton V8 (20 H.P. Increase)
- 5 Speed / 3:55 Reg. Axle
- Keyless
- Premium Audio CD
Mods.
- K&N Cold Airbox / Throttle Body Mod.
- Flowmaster 40 (Stock Setup with 3 1/2" x 10" Gibson Tip)
- Cranked Torsion Bars
- Bugshield
- Bedliner
- Ventshades

arobbins@mail.liberty.k12.mo.us

 

I'm on my third Triton engine (each in a different vehicle) and every last one of them: 4.6L, 5.4L and 6.8L requires only six (6) quarts of oil. This amount always brings the level into the "safe" range when changing the filter too.

Even Ford would have fixed at least one of the Expedition, F150, or F250 SuperDuty owner's manuals within 4 years of production!


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1997 4x4 Expedition- 4.6L, true dual exhaust w/glass-packs, K&N air filter, SuperChip, airbox mods, Edelbrock shocks, 285/75R16 BFG ATs, 2000 "XLT" wheels, 4.10 gears, Auburn LS, Clarion In-dash CD player, Smitty Bilt push bars and nerf bars.

2000 4x4 F250 SD XLT SuperCab SWB- 6.8L, Offroad Pkg, Camper Pkg, 4.30LS, Tape & CD player, Remote Keyless Entry, Sliding back glass, tinted windows, 265/75R16 OWL tires.

NoMo's site

 

The confusion seems to be related to what it takes to reach the "full" mark on the dipstick. Many cars and trucks today read in between "add" and "full" when they have the correct amount of oil in them. Used to be that after changing oil and filter, if you later checked the stick, it read "full". Thats not so anymore (why, I don't know).
If you are changing the filter at the same time, then there is no doubt at all as to what "full" really is. It is 6 quarts poured in.
Run it to check for leaks, then sometime soon, check it when its been off and level. The level on the dipstick is now the "real" full mark. Just what we need... something else to remember!

 

ksdoxey...stick with the 6 quarts..you will not harm your 5.4L at all.

Like nomo, I am on my 3rd Triton V8..all different F-150s and all with different/updated owners manuals. All have been 5.4s..and I do all of my own oil changes. I have only used 6 quarts each oil change (with filter change)...and this brings the level right in the middle of the indication range. If it needed 7 quarts, the owners manual would say so.

The owners manual specifically says (bolded) NOT to fill it to the MAX on the stick..and to leave it between the MIN/MAX (in the middle).

I NEVER put complete trust in a dealership. Tell FORD during a dispute, you listened to some service guy who told you verbally to use 7 when the owners manual said to use 6 after an engine related problem or leak occurs under warranty and see what happens.

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2000 F-150 XLT, 4x2, 5.4L Supercab, Superchip, Styleside, Black with silver two-tone, 3.55 rear, class III towing package with heavy duty cooling package, Heavy duty shocks, 4 wheel disk ABS, overhead console, sliding rear window, keyless entry, dark graphite interior, in dash CD, factory leather wrapped steering wheel, FORD bedliner, FORD black tubular cab steps, K&N air filter, mar-hyde rubberized undercoating, Modine climate filtration system, Bugflector II, Mobil 1 oil and filter




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ksdoxey
Do you have an engine oil cooler on your 5.4? I believe that the cooler and its hoses will take about 1 quart of oil to fill after it is installed on the truck. Not all 5.4's come with it and that would account for the wrong information in the owner’s manual. Mine came with a trainy and engine oil cooler. It will take 6.5 quarts to fill if I drain it when the engine is cold and 6 quarts to fill if I hastily change it when hot.

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99 4X4 XLT S/C with ORP
5.4L 3.73LS
Flow Master Dual Exhaust
K&N Filter w/ Intake Mod
Flex-a-Lite Black Magic 150 Electric Cooling Fan
Jason "Hugger" Truck Lid

 

What Ranger,

You may want to "hastily" change your oil every time. I realize you may get a little more oil out when it's cold. But if it's changed when hot or after being run at operating temperature for a half hour or more, you get the benefit of having all the nasties suspended in the oil when it gets drained. In other words they don't have a chance to fall out of suspension and get left in your engine.

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98 F-150 XLT 4X4 ORP Super Cab Short Bed, 4.6, Auto, 4.10's, Mag-Hytec diff. cover, Magnacharger supercharger, Superchip, Gibson single cat-back, 80/100w German head lamps, Warn HS9500i winch with semi hidden mount, Wrangler dual battery kit with red & yellow top Optima batteries, Torsion bars cranked up 2.5 turns. Needs one more door.

 

I have the 4.6 engine. The last time I changed my oil & filter I put in 6.5 qts. This brought the level up to the top of the safe range on the dipstick.

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F150IslandBoy
1997 F150 Lariat
SuperCab, Toreador Red w/ Gold, Styleside, 4.6L, A/T, A/C, 3.55 3800 Limited Slip, Class 3 Tow Package, Leather Captain Seats, Sliding Rear Window.
Modifications:
Airaid FIPK, Flowmaster Delta Flow 50 Series, Bugflector II, Viper 500ESP Alarm, Pendaliner Bedliner, Cobra Trapshooter 3 Radar Detector, CARR Tubular Nerf Bars, NFA 1400 Compact 55W=>85W Halogen O.E. Lights, Durango 255/70R16, Chrome eyelet tie downs, Smoked front lic. plate cover.

 

Whenever I do an oil change, which is once a month, I use about 6 1/2 quarts. Should I be using a full 7 quarts??

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2000 F150 Flareside SC Lariat, 5.4L, 4x4 ORP, Superchip, Borla Exhaust, K&N Air Filter, ******** Bed Cover, Penda Liner Pro, PIAA 980 Dual Lamp, Billet Grill, Alpine CVA 1005, Alpine In-dash CD and DSP, Alpine 6 Disc Changer, Alpine VCR, Rockford Fosgate 5 1/4" and 5x7" speakers, Rockford Fosgate 8" Sub, BEL Remote Radar/Laser Detector, Blue Interior Neon

 

I have read through the many posts on here, and have noticed that no one has mentioned the filter relocation for the reason the engine takes an additional quart of oil. I had a '97 4.6L that someone had taken a grease pencil and written 7 qts. right on the radiator support. I asked a Ford dealer about this and they said that the extra quart was needed because of the relocation kit. Which brings me to this question, does anyone know why the filter doesn't have the remote location on the 2000 models? Or am I confused and what I am calling a relocator or remote filter, actually the oil cooling unit?

 

Have a 2000 5.4L with the engine oil cooler in it. Takes 6 quarts. Had a 97 4.6L with no engine oil cooler. Took 6 quarts. Manual says 6 quarts with no distinction for oil cooler or not.

Now...Heres one for you...How many liters is that?...

 

5.678117676 L

 

Very good Flatlander! We have a winner.

By the way chestnutorp, no the relocation kit was an extra thing that could indeed result in a little more oil to refill the lines. Why they don't have em anymore? No one knows. They did put a diversion pan in there to make the oil not dump right on the suspension ans maybe they stopped needing it to calm customers down after that. Used to be a mess and they remoted it to solve this problem for a while. Not realy any distinct dates to go by and even some where after delivery to dealers. Count yourself lucky.

The Engine oil cooler is a fluid jacket up under the oil filter that circulates cooled radiator coolant around the oil passage as it flows into and out of the filter. It results in very little more oil in the pan at all. But the filter remains in about the same location as it was. Not remote.

 

cphilip,
thanks for the information. I think they should have kept the relocation lines on it because the new 5.4L is still a pain in the butt to change the oil on. I was considering trying to put a relocation unit on it just for the convenience