OK guys, here you go. I got done with the install Monday night, the kit is a fine piece of engineering. My truck just turned 1000 miles, so it isn't really broken in yet, but it will be soon! The boost gauge shows 5#'s from 1500 RPM thru 5000 RPM, I am also at 5000' elevation here in Montana. The A/F ratio was a safe 12.2:1 thru 4000 RPM where it begins to drop (even safer)to 11.2:1 until 5000 RPMS.

Here is the meat:

Run #5 is bone stock w/ 600 miles.
Run #21 is w/ the Magnacharger, 1000 miles.
Run #23 same as #21 except I split the air box in two and let the blower suck thru the MAF meter. No more boost, but much better power. I do have an air box mod ready to install, but I left the stock airbox in place as a baseline.

Enjoy

Name: DYNORUN.005
Title:
Run Date and Time: 5/20/00 1:15:30 PM
Acceleration from 2000 to 5000RPM, interval = 250.00RPM
Absolute barometric pressure : 25.69 in.Hg.
Vapor pressure : 0.26 in.Hg.
Intake air temperature : 82.1 °F
Gear Ratio : 62.52 RPM/MPH
Correction Factor : 1.18 SAE
RPM POWER TORQUE
2000 111.1 291.6
2250 120.2 280.6
2500 127.8 268.5
2750 136.9 261.5
3000 147.5 258.3
3250 159.7 258.1
3500 170.4 255.7
3750 187.4 262.4
4000 191.3 251.2
4250 193.5 239.2
4500 191.7 223.7
4750 185.6 205.3
5000 175.8 184.7
Column Max
193.5 291.6
Column Min
111.1 184.7
Column Average
161.5 249.3

Name: DYNORUN.021
Title: Magnacharger
Run Date and Time: 8/30/00 8:47:42 PM
Acceleration from 2250 to 5250RPM, interval = 250.00RPM
Absolute barometric pressure : 25.68 in.Hg.
Vapor pressure : 0.22 in.Hg.
Intake air temperature : 74.6 °F
Gear Ratio : 62.66 RPM/MPH
Correction Factor : 1.17 SAE
RPM POWER TORQUE
2250 134.8 314.7
2500 147.6 310.2
2750 165.8 316.7
3000 178.9 313.3
3250 192.3 310.8
3500 207.0 310.6
3750 228.3 319.7
4000 234.7 308.1
4250 241.5 298.5
4500 246.4 287.6
4750 246.5 272.6
5000 245.4 257.8
5250 166.6 166.6
Column Max
246.5 319.7
Column Min
134.8 166.6
Column Average
202.8 291.3

Name: DYNORUN.023
Title: Magnacharger
Run Date and Time: 8/30/00 9:00:02 PM
Acceleration from 2250 to 5000RPM, interval = 250.00RPM
Absolute barometric pressure : 25.66 in.Hg.
Vapor pressure : 0.22 in.Hg.
Intake air temperature : 74.2 °F
Gear Ratio : 62.75 RPM/MPH
Correction Factor : 1.17 SAE
RPM POWER TORQUE
2250 144.9 338.2
2500 157.6 331.1
2750 175.3 334.7
3000 190.8 334.0
3250 205.9 332.7
3500 219.1 328.8
3750 236.0 330.5
4000 254.9 334.6
4250 257.5 318.2
4500 261.9 305.7
4750 263.4 291.2
5000 262.9 276.2
Column Max
263.4 338.2
Column Min
144.9 276.2
Column Average
219.2 321.3

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2000 F-150 XLT Styleside

5.4, 4x4, Reg.Cab, 120" WB, White, Sport Pkg.

- Bell Tech lowering kit (3-4 drop)
- Gen II Lightning Wheels
- B'stone 285 60 18 tires
- Magnacharger S/C Kit
- Hi-Flo Intake Kit (my design)


dwh@dynojet.com



[This message has been edited by DynoDan (edited 08-31-2000).]

 

Great post! As you can see by my profile, I also have a Magnacharger only on a 4.6L. My max HP at sea level and about 85 F was 248.2 and torque just over 300 lbs. I just ordered a Pro M MAF which should open up the intake. Do You have a superchip programmed for the blower? My fuel/air is running about 10.5 to 1 which I know is rich.

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98 White 4.6 Triton STX (It's not an STX anymore) Flairside,Class III hitch, Blue Cobra Stripes, Euro Lid by Astro, Bed Rug, Fiero Wing, Air Dam,Westin Step Bars, Ground Force 2-4 Drop,Custom MB Phantom Wheels,Custom Programmed Super Chip,Pillar Pod w/ boost and trans temp,Jacobs DIS Ignition,New transmission on the way, K&N, Jet coated JBA stainless headers, Magna Flow Muffler with Stainless Duals and of course fully Blown by Magnacharger!

 

Here is the difference in A/F ratios between stock and Magnacharged. The dyno runs are free, so if any of you want to see other various info, just let me know.


Name: DYNORUN.021
Title: Magnacharger
Run Date and Time: 8/30/00 8:47:42 PM
Acceleration from 2250 to 5250RPM, interval = 250.00RPM
Absolute barometric pressure : 25.68 in.Hg.
Vapor pressure : 0.22 in.Hg.
Intake air temperature : 74.6 °F
Gear Ratio : 62.66 RPM/MPH
Correction Factor : 1.17 SAE
RPM AIR/FUE
2250 12.6
2500 12.5
2750 12.5
3000 12.5
3250 12.3
3500 12.2
3750 12.2
4000 12.2
4250 12.1
4500 11.9
4750 11.6
5000 11.6
5250 11.8
Column Max
12.6
Column Min
11.6
Column Average
12.2

Name: DYNORUN.006
Title: Stock
Run Date and Time: 5/20/00 1:26:08 PM
Acceleration from 2000 to 5000RPM, interval = 250.00RPM
Absolute barometric pressure : 25.68 in.Hg.
Vapor pressure : 0.2 in.Hg.
Intake air temperature : 79.8 °F
Gear Ratio : 63.21 RPM/MPH
Correction Factor : 1.18 SAE
RPM AIR/FUE
2000 14.0
2250 13.8
2500 13.5
2750 13.4
3000 13.3
3250 13.3
3500 13.3
3750 13.3
4000 13.3
4250 13.2
4500 12.8
4750 12.4
5000 12.1
Column Max
14.0
Column Min
12.1
Column Average
13.2


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2000 F-150 XLT Styleside

5.4, 4x4, Reg.Cab, 120" WB, White, Sport Pkg.

- Bell Tech lowering kit (3-4 drop)
- Gen II Lightning Wheels
- B'stone 285 60 18 tires
- Magnacharger S/C Kit
- Hi-Flo Intake Kit (my design)


dwh@dynojet.com

 

Thanks Dan,
I have a work in progress and will be breaking into some new territory very soon. I feel I have gone about as far as my stock block can take me so I am looking into stroking the 4.6 and going to stage two blower heads. Of-course the small block will have forged pistons and rods. I am checking into a SHM preped and stroked short block as we speak. Will keep everyone updated. With the 5.4 and the right tweeking you should be able to reach your goal. My goal is also 400 at the rear wheels. I am really enjoying this project and have learned a lot from the people on this board. I also thank Crash 1 for a great install. Take Care.

 

DynoDan,

All of the dyno numbers are very helpful, but tell me this. When you kick it in the a$$, does it feel like it was worth the four grand? Would really like to have mine blown, but I'm afraid I might be disappointed at the results after plunking down all that cash.

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2000 Regular Cab Short Box XLT 2WD 5.4 silver 3.55 LS 4 wheel antilock discs
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PROTECTION
Valentine 1 Radar Locator with Remote Display

 

Dan,

Congratulations on the blower! I hope the install went smoothly! Impressive numbers! I would be VERY happy! I know you are, and will be EVERY time you mash the "LOUD PEDAL"!

Hey Fred, here we see the benefit of a 5.4... NO DOUBT!!!!

Now if I could only get it in a 5-speed...LOL!!!!



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Thanks guys!! Fred, those numbers are damn good for a 4.6. I am hoping my "Hi-Flo Air Intake" I fabricated will give similar results as the run with no air cleaner. I want 300 rwhp, hopefully a chip, headers, and exhaust can get me there (maybe a bigger TB too)! It's a far cry from my old Gen I Lighning, 400+ rwhp was on tap! Remember my numbers are corrected, so this is what I would see near sea level. My actual numbers up here at 5000' are much lower(about 30rwhp).

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2000 F-150 XLT Styleside

5.4, 4x4, Reg.Cab, 120" WB, White, Sport Pkg.

- Bell Tech lowering kit (3-4 drop)
- Gen II Lightning Wheels
- B'stone 285 60 18 tires
- Magnacharger S/C Kit
- Hi-Flo Intake Kit (my design)


dwh@dynojet.com

 

2000regcab54, the $38xx retail on this kit is pricey, but it's a very nice piece. The kit, as received, is VERY conservative. 5#'s of boost, 11.x:1 A/F ratio @WOT, and an intercooler........there is potential. Magnachargers are being dealer installed in California, obviously this conservative kit won't give them a headache, that's why they do it. Every # of boost should be worth 10-15 rwhp, depending on the tune, so the kit isn't out of line. I told myself I wasn't going to get greedy with my new truck, that's what the Mustang is for (it gained 120 rwhp w/ 9#'s)! It seems that I need to find 300-320 rwhp in my truck to keep me happy.

Boudy, Flats Man has a few mods that add to the effectiveness of his Magnacharger kit. He is "sucking" air easier, expelling exhaust easier, and also has a chip for his combo. I feel that once I get an air filter / intake system, exhaust, chip, and some decent tuning, 300 rwhp is attainable. According to most people on this list, the truck won't be "broke in" until 4000 miles. I don't think 7#'s of boost would hurt either, but it will hurt my 3 yr Magnacharger warranty! As far as the Lightnings, they benefit from factory tuning, 43# squirters, and 8# of boost. I have got some cool tuning equipment that I am going to try on my truck. It will allow me to massage injector pulse widths when boost is present. I'll get rid of the Magnacharger supplied "CFR-compound fuel regulator", pop in some 30# injectors, and get a MAF meter calibrated for the injectors. The timing on the truck may be tricky, I noticed a knock sensor in the "valley" of the motor, hopefully it's effective if I need it. The ACT sensor on my application is in the air intake before the blower. This may make the timing too aggressive because it's seeing pre-compressed air (cooler). Hopefully the intercooler is doing a decent job of getting charge temps back down near ambient. (87-93 Mustangs have the ACT sensor in the #5 intake runner, as did my old Lightning). Food for thought. If you just want big peak dyno numbers, buy a Vortech or Procharger. Compare the area under the curves and I bet the Magnacharger is superior (pending they run the same boost levels).

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2000 F-150 XLT Styleside

5.4, 4x4, Reg.Cab, 120" WB, White, Sport Pkg.

- Bell Tech lowering kit (3-4 drop)
- Gen II Lightning Wheels
- B'stone 285 60 18 tires
- Magnacharger S/C Kit
- Hi-Flo Intake Kit (my design)


dwh@dynojet.com



[This message has been edited by DynoDan (edited 09-01-2000).]

 

Nice numbers Dan. I am curious though, your numbers seam to be in the same range as Flats Man and Crash1, 250 at the wheels, + or - a bit. What puts the Lightnings in the 320 range without chips? Is it a 4.6/5.4 thing?

 

Dan: Thanks for the input. This kit seems more and more what I am looking for. My 98' 5.4 is used mostly pulling my Saturday night dirt car so I'm not really after peak numbers. I was just curious as to the difference. I'm not very familiar with anything other than a SBC. I'm going to buy a 2001 that won't hit the street until it is a daily driving show truck. I built audio show cars many years ago and never built myself one. I'm interesting in this Magnacharger as I have the ability to install it, just not the experience. We plan to install 3 of them in the same weekend. On my 98', my brothers 00', and my future 01'. I plan to get in touch with Mudder soon. He lives near me and I would find the input invaluable.

Thanks again,
Boudy

[This message has been edited by Boudy (edited 09-05-2000).]

 

Boudy, please email me. I may have some info you'd be interested in hearing.

dwh@dynojet.com


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2000 F-150 XLT Styleside

5.4, 4x4, Reg.Cab, 120" WB, White, Sport Pkg.

- Bell Tech lowering kit (3-4 drop)
- Gen II Lightning Wheels
- B'stone 285 60 18 tires
- Magnacharger S/C Kit
- Hi-Flo Intake Kit (my design)


dwh@dynojet.com

 

To answer the question, Was it worth it, The answer is a resounding yes! I feel I had taken my truck as far as it was going to go with out the blower. When it was installed it opened up another level of atainable performance for me. I can now take advantage of the Pro M 80 MM MAF I just ordered. I have ordered another smaller pully to increase the boost to 7 or 8 psi because as DynoDan said, it is a conservative package that has a lot of potential. I am installing 4:10 gears, a stroked 4.6L is 300 cubic inches instead of the stock 281. Many have asked why I don't just throw a 5.4 in and be done with it. I like the 4.6L and a stroked 4.6L is something very different indeed. My goal is to have 400 RWH out of a 4.6L and it is very doable with the right heads and tuning. With the blower, it is a different animal, but a word of warning! It makes you want to go even further with your project!

 

Flats Man, I am drooling with envy, sounds very cool! Where are you getting the pulley from? I thought I wouldn't see the advertised 5#'s of boost up here at 5000 feet, but I was wrong. My old Kenne Bell kit on my Lightning lost 1-1.5#'s of advertised boost......not cool. I only wish they would drop the speed limit again here in Montana, this truck wants to run all the time now! Another question, what size is your stock MAF meter? My 2000 5.4 has an 80mm composite meter (older models had aluminum), and the sample tube only protrudes 1/2 way in to the bore.

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2000 F-150 XLT Styleside

5.4, 4x4, Reg.Cab, 120" WB, White, Sport Pkg.

- Bell Tech lowering kit (3-4 drop)
- Gen II Lightning Wheels
- B'stone 285 60 18 tires
- Magnacharger S/C Kit
- Hi-Flo Intake Kit (my design)


dwh@dynojet.com

 

My truck had the old aluminum MAF with the "tower" in the middle. Sorry about getting a little carried away with the last post. I had just returned from the Speed shop and we had just discussed the long and short range plans for the truck so I was pumped! What are you doing about a TB? I am researching that now. I am having a custon polished air tube built for the Pro M so I will not be using the K&N anymore. The Pro M comes with its own air filter. I am still waiting for the tranny to arrive from Ca by truck. We were going with a Lentech but decided to go with a race prepped Art Carr with a 2000 to 2400 stall. I OK'd the gear change to 4:10 so I should have a solid running gear. I got the info on the stroked 4.6L block from SHM and the stroked short block retails for $5250. I am building this truck out of my "Insanity Fund" which is getting low right now so the next thing I am saving for is the short block and heads. I will be back at the dyno next month for two more runs with the new pully and MAF and will post the numbers. BTW the pullys are available from Magnacharger at their web site in 6 and 8 rib models in .2 incriments from about 2 inches to 3.6 or there abouts. Will keep you posted!