I have a 2001 4x4 orp 17"wheels and the 5.4l engine with 3.55 rearend and on dry pavement I have a hard time spinning my tires, everyone else on here seems to have no trouble at all. Can anyone tell me why? The truck is very fast while accelerating and has no trouble beating dodges and chevies but it just can't do a good smokey. Could the height of the 17" tires be hindering the spin or is there something wrong. Now on wet pavement I have trouble keeping the tires hooked in fact im all over the place so I'm confused. Thanks for any help!

 

It could be that you have the limited slip diff. With that heavy of a truck, unmodified, it could be hard. Try to power brake it, should light them right up. Also, when you spin, does the back end try to go off to one side or the other (like a skid)? That too would indicate a limited slip.

 

Whitestx,

When my truck was stock I had the same problem, even with stock tires. With my mods and 315's I can lay down some pretty good rubber even with the limited slip.

WarEagle

 

When I switched my HD wheels to my 16" stockers for the winter I can grease the tires from a rolling start. It even gets a little squireley (sp) when the LS engages and the a$$ end kicks out. The HD has the 3.73 rearend and the engine/computer is bone stock.

 

Yeah mine sucks in the rain too, I fail to see the pleasure of wanting to destroy a perfectly good set of tires, not to mention beating the snot out of a new truck, just my .02 cents

 

The kind of road surface makes a difference too. In my area, I have a hard time spinning my wheels because the aggregate in the tarmac here has very sharp edges which really grabs the rubber.

 

i know that i have the LS rearend and i can breakstand the truck with no effort at all, I just asked because some people were saying that they could lite em up from a rolling start 100% of the time where as i can only do it some times. I have noticed that the type of paveing does make a difference, however the advantage with the 17" wheels is slighty better mileage so at least thats something lol.

 

2001 ORP,

How many Kilometers on your truck? After about 10,000 km you will see a difference. Also do not expect to light the tires in second gear. So if you start off slow and it upshifts to second they will not spin.

Regards

Jean Marc Chartier

 

I have 3.73 LS and have never been able to spin them on dry pavement either. However, the slightest bit of water and the thing is uncontrollable. Must be the awesome grip of the Wrangler AT/S tires!

 

Short of a "neutral drop" (which I will NOT try), I cannot buy even a chirp from mine. Must be those awsome Goodyears .

 

I have the same set-up as what you do 2001 ORP, except that my truck is a 1999, and I had not problem getting tire spin with the goodyears, or should I say junkyears that I had on my truck from the start. Now with the Bridgestone Dueler AT's I don't have any spin unless I really get on it, but I don't want to chew up my tires, so I don't do that.

 

My 97 with a 3.55 would smoke 'em nicely with the Goodyear P255 Wrangler AT's - and/but the torque convertor would stall around 2400 RPM. The Y2K has 3.73's with LT245's (slightly greater RR) and they are a vastly different tire -- and the TC stalls at 1900 RPM. That's likely the reason I cannot light-em-up -- there's quite a bit of torque and HP difference between 1900 and 2400 RPM.

The truck is so quiet that I constantly am annoyed by the tires singing at 45-55 MPH in the summer -- but when winter rolls on (like the 42" of snow we got last week) -- the tires will allow me to roll down the street in 4x4 at WOT in 2nd without losing it -- and I don't need any weight in the rear for most of the time 4x2 operation.

I suppose someday I'll get some "good tires" like have been touted by members -- but until I learn how bad mine are, I'm happy.

 

Mine is a 4.6, 4x2, and can light it up pretty easily from a a stop. By "it", I mean an open differential 3:55, so it's only the right rear usually. I have true duals, a Superchip, and a K&N fipk. The Superchip was accountable for most of the difference, because depending on pavement, it would hardly ever do it before I put it in. I just bought a set of the STX/Off Road 17" wheels with Goodyear Eagle GT-II's a few weeks ago, and the tires are pretty disappointing in the traction dept. My 245/70 Yokahamas were harder to break loose than these 275/60's. Shouldn't the opposite have happened? I can jump on it while stopped, and the tires barely make a sound. They are almost silent while they spin, weird! I don't spend a whole lot of time slamming the pedal to the floor, but it's nice to know what you can and can't do with your tires. I give a little more time when pulling out through intersections than before, just to be on the safe side. The width of the tires did help the dry handling though. It feels better at highway speeds.,,,,,98

 

Thanks guys for all the responses I think that all of what you guys say make sense on one situation or the other and have been helpful. What I can gather from the Ford guys around here is that the taller overall height of the 17" wheels and tires combined with the lower stall speed on the torque conveter makes the trucks with 16" wheels smoke em much easier at all times. Aswell as the only mod I have done is put on a SI/SO raven 55 so I need the FIPK and a chip really soon lol! I am very pleased with my trucks performance it can really haul azz and at 200 bucks a crack not smoking the tires could be an advantage. I can't decide who I like to beat up on better though, is the the rice rockets or the dudge and chebby boys! Maybe you guys can share some opinions on tyhat subject aswell, keep up the ford truckin!

 

I think the road compound does make a big difference. I can spin them if I'm not careful (don't like to do it) going around a corner or on a slight uphill . . . not on a straight stretch . . . I've got the 4.6 EC 4x4 LS Auto 3.55 Rear End. When the roads are wet it can go like crazy in first . . .

When I was in Vancouver trying to merge at higher speeds the backend would sometimes break loose when it downshifted to 2nd when the roads were really wet . . . kinda freaky cause it's NEVER done that up here in PG. I has allot more trouble not spining the tires down there so I think the road syrface does make a nticeable difference.