Frank,

I just want to clarify some things. I do agree with your feelings about the intake configuration on the Magnacharger. I have even thought of adapting the Mustang parts. I will get some baseline testing done before considering this. I feel I will be extremely happy with this kit.

I disagree on the fact the M90 is not capable of feeding the 5.4L. The graphs clearly show peak torque at OVER 550 ft/lbs.
No lack of volume there.

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Crash I was just wondering what graghs you are talking about? Were these dyno graphs done on a 5.4? Do you think the 112 would be better on the 5.4 and would you think that the life of the blower wouldn't be as long because of more rpm needed with the 90 over the 112? I know the blower does work on the 5.4 I dynoed one at 284 rwh on a 00 f150. I think they clam it's around 280 so in does preform but the pulley of the eaton is small and I really don't know how long it will last. The blower I believe is close to it's max. But I might be wrong. As for the 4.6 I think that this is the perfect setup.

 

Both compressors will be running at very high RPM levels. Speaking for the M90, it runs at 16,000 RPM. The M112 wil spin around the same RPM, however, the M112 will move more air per revolution. Both are equally reliable. The M90 will provide full boost near 1800 ENGINE RPM.

If I were modifying my engine, the Intercooled M112 would be my choice, but when you look at this kit as well as the Holley, modification is a necessity. However, I do NOT believe the M90 is too small for the 5.4L.

The graphs are printed on the brochures Chris sent me. And yes, I have one for both.

I was impressed with the 4.6L and 5.4L graphs, and I believe this kit makes adequate power. I can't wait to find out...

I hope to buy soon!

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There are two differences between the M90 and M112 to speak of. Volume and intake configuration (shape and integral bypass).

The M112 will flow a larger volume of air per revolution. That does not necessarily mean it spins at a lower rpm.

The Lightning drivetrain has been modified for reliability. The Magnacharger is designed for bolting on an otherwise stock engine. The main concern is power and reliability with no modifications.

If this kit is capable of 6-8psi boost, there is nothing to worry about. The power will be there!

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Right on Crash. Now if we can just talk big Ed into gettin the darn thing, that would be awesome. Come on big guy, you know you want one You could be the fastest 4x4 around.

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I see some here still considering centrifugal compressors.

Guys, I am going to leave you behind...

I (in my mind) seems clear the advantage of roots type compressors is DEFINITELY worth the cost difference. Roots types are better suited for the street.

You get what you pay for, AND you don't have to wait for it!!!!!

JUST MASH THE LOUD PEDAL!!!!!

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TEST

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BTW- I have edited some of the above posts.

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since i have both (a novi2000 and a M112), the novi has more power (for the strip). the M112 is much more fun to drive on the street, it just doesn't have the volume the novi gives you.

 

And how long do you have to wait?

Can you lay out boost vs. RPM on the NOVI for us? Do you more than 1-2psi boost at 3000RPM? What RPM is MAX boost?

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I get 1-2 psi right off idle (800-1000rpms) with a steady climb to 12psi@5500rpms (1700cfm). either blower will overpower the tires or slicks from slow speeds. a downshift with a roots is exciting, whereas with a novi, you better hold on. the novi is not your typical centrifugal blower, it is expensive, and a favorite among the mustang racing crowd, where some run it as high as 27psi on specially prepared engines.

 

So MrBBQMAN,
Which blower would you recommend for a 2000
5.4 4x4??
I am saving for a blower and waiting for the dust to settle before I buy (it's gonna be awhile anyway)

Thanks,
AHAB

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Ahab, for your truck, i would definately go with a roots blower. it's higher boost off idle will make it feel so much lighter, and more fun to drive. just remember you still weigh 3tons when you hit that break pedal , as for brand, they all have their pros/cons, and you will have to decide how much you want to do to that brand new truck, and whether or not it will void your warrenty.

 

In speaking with Chris, he stated both the M90 and the M112 were considered and thoroughly tested. The M112 is not used due to the decrease in bottom-end touque. As mentioned above, the M90 will provide enough airflow to feed a 500hp engine.

Something else- These kits are being dealer installed in many areas, and financed into the cost. In addition, I have been informed not only are these kits EPA and CARB certified, they will NOT void your factory bumper-to-bumper or powertrain warranties.

All of this comes with tremendous power gains which are extremely reliable.

OEM manufacturers often call upon Magnacharger for engineering, development, and testing.

I am convinced.

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TEST

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Frank ryan, magnacharger didn't claim to produce 500hp, they said the mp90 would produce 500 hp worth of air.

crash 1, I too have gotten to know Chris form Magnuson, there tech support is great and I have the mp90 on my 97 f150 5.4 ltr. and it is AWESOME!!