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Old Mar 14, 2000 | 05:28 PM
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Okay here is the situation, I have my 85 F-150, I park it on a hill everyday. The other day when I drained the oil, I got about 2.5 gallons of oil/gas mix out of the crankcase. Did the hill cause this drain? I also had the same problem in a 68 beetle that was parked in the same place. Me and the hill are the only 2 constants.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2000 | 08:47 PM
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Holy cow! The only thing I can think of is that 1 or more of your injectors aren't closing and the pressure left in the fuel lines is draining into the cylinders, past the rings and into the crankcase.
Unless it's carburated, then the seals in the bowls are gone. Look down the throats and check to see if it's always wet.
I really can't think of any other way for fuel to get in the crankcase, although I'm sure somebody else will.

2 1/2 gallons? you're lucky you didn't bend the crank.

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Old Mar 15, 2000 | 04:29 PM
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It is carberated, I would like to get rid of the old carb anyhow... The possiabilties are endless!
 
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Old Mar 15, 2000 | 05:31 PM
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If the tank is above the engine, gas can fill the carb bowl and overflow because the float, and needle valve, is allowing the fuel to keep running into the bowl. Replace the float and valve seat. This is from my experience where I had the same problem on a Corvette parked on a hill.
 
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Old Mar 15, 2000 | 07:19 PM
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That would make sense. when it is parked on the hill the tank would be above the float boal.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2000 | 10:05 AM
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Hmmm...since the fuel tank is normally about 2 ft below the carb the truck would have to be parked on a cliff for the tank to be above the level of the carburetor.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2000 | 10:25 AM
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Even if the needle valve was stuck open and the float wasn't closing, wouldn't the fuel come out the vents on the carb.? I still can't see how it would get into the oil pan.

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Old Mar 16, 2000 | 01:19 PM
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If you have a mechanical fuel pump it could be from a pin hole in the pump diaphram. Had a tractor that did this one time, no problem when it was running, just when it was turned off.

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Old Mar 16, 2000 | 04:45 PM
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The reason I even changed the oil at that time was that I was replacing the head on the truck and wanted new blood in it. I replaced the head because the truck wasn't running well (it would start sometimes) and then would run like a cilinder or three weren't firing. so I thought a new head wouldn't hurt.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2000 | 06:45 PM
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I had the same problem with the old "81" F-350. Fuel pump went bad internally. The truck still ran, but the engine started knocking really bad and the oil pressure dropped out. I dumped the oil and filled 2 drain pans. Oil and gas mixed. Lucky not to have spun a bucket full of bearings. The gas started dissolving all the sludge that was caused by the Quaker State Black Death oil at the time. Oil screen fully plugged up.
1) Lifted engine
2) Removed oil pan
3) Used lords name in vain
4) spooned endless amounts of sludge out of pan.
5) Put it all back together
6) Replaced fuel pump.
7) Changed the oil and filter (duh..)
8) Changed filter a few more times due to paranoia.
That was at around 120Kmi. Lasted to 180K then BOOM!!.

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Old Mar 16, 2000 | 07:23 PM
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You must either have the 300 or the 351HO?
 
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Old Mar 16, 2000 | 08:18 PM
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Mine was the 351, your right, it'd have to be one of em...........

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Old Mar 16, 2000 | 08:48 PM
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Yep mine is a 300cdi. I made some sludge, how hard is it to take the pan off? My oil light has been flickering... I thought bad sensor.
 
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Old Mar 16, 2000 | 11:53 PM
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Don't park on a hill!!! Just Kidding!
 
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Old Mar 19, 2000 | 02:51 AM
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Yup, mechanical fuel pump with a tear in the rubber diaphram is one of the best ways to end up with your own "oil well".
I just missed the "black death" back then, the Quaker State case I bought was from an OK date code. For those of you who don't know, Quaker State got a bad batch of additive from their supplier back about 1980 or so. Would turn the oil into goo at low temp. Worked with a guy who was the first I heard of it. He changed oil in his Chevy LUV truck. Then parked outside at -10F, in morning started it up, bad sounds, oil light on, shut it off. Checked dipstick, no oil! Looked under truck, no leaks, where did it go? Pushed into garage (connected to house), checked oil after work that night, the oil was back again! Did this twice, then figured that oil was thickening in the cold, would get pumped up into head, and stay up there till it was warmer, then it would drain back to pan. About 2 months later, it started making the news, and Quaker State replaced some engines. After that, you can bet they test each batch of additives!
 
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