2007 f150 VCT problem

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Old Mar 25, 2018 | 08:20 AM
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2007 f150 VCT problem

Im new to the forum and i need help with my 2007 F150. It has 135k miles and has always run good. About 3 months ago it started to idle rough when it was warmed up, I assumed it was time to do a complete timing chain kit fix. Last week I finally had time so I started the project, I replaced The timing chins, Phasers, VCT solenoids, guides and oil pump. Put it all back together, primed the oil pump and started it up. It started right up and ran fine until it warmed up and i started to drive it. When I stopped the first time it started to idle rough again. I disconnected the passenger side solenoid and no change, when I disconnected the drivers side everything runs fine. I checked the oil pressure and its about 26psi when the engine is warmed up. Does anyone have any suggestions?
 
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Old Mar 25, 2018 | 09:06 AM
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Maybe the driver's side solenoid is bad?
 
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Old Mar 25, 2018 | 10:18 AM
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codes?
 
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Old Mar 25, 2018 | 11:40 AM
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There are no codes. I thought it might be a bad solenoid, but I had not heard of one being bad out of the box.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2018 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Keggy1970
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When I stopped the first time it started to idle rough again. I disconnected the passenger side solenoid and no change, when I disconnected the drivers side everything runs fine. I checked the oil pressure and its about 26psi when the engine is warmed up. Does anyone have any suggestions?
THIS ^^^ is one of the 'few' cases where unplugging VCT solenoids produces useful diagnostic results (when considered against operational design of the variable valve timing system). If there is NO change - the test tells you absolutely NOTHING.


However, when there IS a change ... consider these things.


The VCT solenoids spool valve _should_ be closed at idle, routing 100% oil flow into the advance oil passageways to advance chambers of phasers. The PCM does NOT apply any duty cycle control signals to the VCTs below 800 RPM, OR below ~25% engine load - thus the VCT spool valve should be totally closed. Unplugging one could only INSURE there is no current flow in the VCT coil and thus the spool valve _SHOULD_ be closed -routing 100% 'available' oil flow/pressure into the advance chambers / holding phasers at full advance (or NO retard).


IF unplugging a VCT improves idle - it MUST have been allowing a small amount of oil flow/pressure get into the advance chambers / oil passageways. (either sticky spool valve and bumping it caused it to close --- OR spurious current flow in the VCT coil holding it partially open). The latter possibility would be eliminated by PLUGGING it in again to check if the rough idle returned. If the rough idle returns, the problem would be WHY is current flowing in the solenoid coil when the PCM is not calling for retard. If it did not - the solenoid is not closing properly (- bad out of the box).


Hope this helps.
 

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