5w-20 syn substitue?
I want to go to a synthetic, but I was wondering what Ford Mo.Co. was tying to achieve in the first place by using the 5w-20 in the 5.4L (?)
I want to go with Mobile 1, but would the 0w-30 or the 5w-30 best maintain whatever Ford was trying to do with the 5w-20?
I want to go with Mobile 1, but would the 0w-30 or the 5w-30 best maintain whatever Ford was trying to do with the 5w-20?
If you want to use mobil 1 product that is closest to the spec to a 5w20.
You can use the 0w30. It has a viscosity of 9.7cSt @ 100c.
To be classified as a 30wt. it must have a viscosity of 9.3cSt.
Whereas the 5w30 is listed as 9.9cst @100c so it is a little thicker
For instance amsoils 5w20 is 9.0 cSt which is just barely a 20wt.
So with the 0w30 you would be .4cSt over what is considered the maximum viscosity for a 20wt oil.
Really its all really close and in reality most conventional oil's will thicken up to a 30 wt anyhow over a 3000 or 4000 mile drain.
For instance a conventional oil 5w20 with a 100c viscosity of 9.0 might have a wt. increase of 14%.
So over the time the oil is in the engine, if it does increase 14% the 9.0 would go up 1.26cSt, which would make it 10.26 cSt. about a midweight 30 oil.
So you see you will actually be closer to the desired grade after a few thousand miles using Mobil 1 0w30 than you would use a conventional oil.
I hope all of this made sense, if you need more explaination let me know I'll try to clarify!
You can use the 0w30. It has a viscosity of 9.7cSt @ 100c.
To be classified as a 30wt. it must have a viscosity of 9.3cSt.
Whereas the 5w30 is listed as 9.9cst @100c so it is a little thicker
For instance amsoils 5w20 is 9.0 cSt which is just barely a 20wt.
So with the 0w30 you would be .4cSt over what is considered the maximum viscosity for a 20wt oil.
Really its all really close and in reality most conventional oil's will thicken up to a 30 wt anyhow over a 3000 or 4000 mile drain.
For instance a conventional oil 5w20 with a 100c viscosity of 9.0 might have a wt. increase of 14%.
So over the time the oil is in the engine, if it does increase 14% the 9.0 would go up 1.26cSt, which would make it 10.26 cSt. about a midweight 30 oil.
So you see you will actually be closer to the desired grade after a few thousand miles using Mobil 1 0w30 than you would use a conventional oil.
I hope all of this made sense, if you need more explaination let me know I'll try to clarify!
Last edited by msparks; Sep 7, 2001 at 09:32 AM.
I'm Running Amsoil Series 2000 0w30.
Though my truck is a 97 and calls for the 5w30. I have talked with Amsoil's tech services numerous times and their recommendation for anyone with a truck that calls for the 5w20, is to run the 0w30 if they want the extended drains. Now they have a full synthetic 5w20 but it is only the XL7500 which is good for 6 months or 7500 miles.
Though my truck is a 97 and calls for the 5w30. I have talked with Amsoil's tech services numerous times and their recommendation for anyone with a truck that calls for the 5w20, is to run the 0w30 if they want the extended drains. Now they have a full synthetic 5w20 but it is only the XL7500 which is good for 6 months or 7500 miles.
Originally posted by tfratzke
....Tony walks into the corner and curls up into the fetal postion and begins to cry
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..man am i tired of this subject......
Tony
....Tony walks into the corner and curls up into the fetal postion and begins to cry
......man am i tired of this subject......
Tony
Msparks: Thanks for the info. I'll try 0W-30 in synthetic. Sorry I posted this under ENGINE as I couldn't find the BORING category....Actually I thought it was a legitimate Q, thanks.


