Need New F-150

Old Nov 18, 1999 | 09:23 PM
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I have a 4.2L auto/3.55 currently, and want to move up to a new F-150 with a V8.

I tow horses and cannot afford a SuperDuty. I want the Lightning's speed, but need more capactiy towing/payload-wise than the Lightning can give me.

Here is what I am looking at.

1. F-150 Work Series (can't afford XL or better), 4x2... or maybe 4x4.
2. 5.4L V-8, auto
3. 7700 Payload package (towing 8800 pounds, payload 3200 or so)
4. 3.73 limited slip rear gears regardless of 4x2 or 4x4.
5. HD electrical/cooling group.
6. Long bed (only option with the payload package)

Now here's my plan... Since I can't get the payload and towing where I'd like it with the Lightning, I will just upgrade the engine in the new F-150/5.4L.

My SVT dealer says he can add the things to the stock 5.4 that'll make it the same as a Lightning's 5.4, as well as the supercharger, once I am ready.
Does this sound funny to anyone?

Once that is done, will I be able to run straight-line 0-60 times nearly as fast as a Lightning once the Supercharger is added? Still missing a few handling items, but the engine is the same. Tranny different, but oh well--will change that later too. Trying to get 0-60 down to about 6.5 seconds.

What sayest, thou, you mechanic types?

Thanks very much for the help! Can't wait to order!!
 
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Old Nov 18, 1999 | 09:31 PM
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I'm sure it can be done, but how can you afford a blower, if you can't afford a XLT? If you don't absolutely need a 4x4, dont get it. Your truck will not ever be the same as a Lightning, unless you have a sportbed and etc. You sound like you want a FAST WORK Truck.
 
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Old Nov 19, 1999 | 04:20 AM
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I think you'd be better off looking for a used SuperDuty. If you tow 8,800 pounds with an F-150, you'll kill that truck if you don't kill yourself and anybody else on the road with you first. If you add a supercharger to it, I don't think the engine will last with that kind of load.
 
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Old Nov 19, 1999 | 07:16 AM
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Thanks for your replies.

I'd plan to have the supercharger added later on down the road--not when I purchase the truck. You are right about the unit affecting engine life under load; I suspect this is ONE of several reasons why a Lightning is only rated for 5000 pounds towing.

As for the XLT--the truth is that it's a lot of stuff I don't need and don't want to pay for. Don't care if the truck has chrome bumpers, power windows/locks, locking tailgate, etc. Why pay for it?

As for towing up to the rated 8800 pounds... The F-350 with a PowerStroke is rated at 10,000 pounds. Granted, there's a difference in weight between the two, but seems like Ford wouldn't hang 8800 pounds on a truck that wasn't built to handle the load. The 7700 Payload package includes an F-150 with a heavier duty frame, 4-wheel ABS braking, and other heavy-duty improvements. Maybe it's actually a rebadged "light duty" F-250 since Ford isn't selling the F-250, non-superduty, this year.

Will check into pricing on a used SD, but I'm not holding my breath on those--they're still too proud of 'em.

I figure my max load will be about a 4000 pound trailer, plus three horses and gear. Roughly 7500-8000 pounds.

Mike
 
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Old Nov 19, 1999 | 09:01 AM
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It really sounds like you need a SuperDuty. check out www.kbb.com on the price of a new striped down SD and compair it to the price of the F150. Also remember that SD will haul those horses safer and easier than the F150. I would hate to think I was endangering their lives (along w/mine and other people on the road) by hauling to heavy a load with the F150.
 
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Old Nov 24, 1999 | 08:01 PM
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Where does your priority lie? Going fast, or pulling the horses? What do you pull your trailer with now?

Dennis is right, payload is not the only thing to consider.


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Old Nov 24, 1999 | 11:09 PM
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Mike, the 7700GVW F-150 IS a LD F-250 with the F-150 badge. That being said, you may be better off with a SD F-250. There isn't a whole lot of price difference between the two trucks. I recently went from a 99 F-150 to a Y2K SD F-250, so I know what the difference is. If you are intending to work the truck at all, get the SD. As far as towing, you don't need to spend the $4600 for a diesel to be able to tow 10,000 LBS either. Whatever you choose, I hope that it works out for you.
 
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Old Nov 25, 1999 | 12:39 AM
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Thank you for your replies, all. I'm leaning towards the F-150/7700. I looked at the SuperDuties and decided that my current and future needs (5-7 years) are mainly a mix of outstanding handling, acceleration, and towing up to about 7000 pounds. I think the 7700 series is definitely up to the task here. The SDs just don't have the performance kick I like--they ARE heavy trucks--and I figure once I actually have the cash to get a SuperDuty or the equivalent 7-10 years from now, the F-150 will be paid for and I'll have a quick truck for drives around town and a SuperDuty for long distance horse pulling on challenging terrain. (.i.e, the wife gets the F-150 except on weekends! Oh yeah, gotta get a wife, first...) :-)

The SuperDuty will run about $2500 more. Nice truck, but heavy and comparatively boring to drive (sorry, SD owners!)

Mike
 
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Old Nov 25, 1999 | 12:43 AM
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What exactly do you mean by boring? I'd love to trade trucks with my dad, I love drivin his new Super Duty.

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Old Nov 25, 1999 | 08:58 AM
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Hahahahah.. I knew I'd catch some trouble for that one!

Boring... i.e., the F-150 is a quicker and more "handling" truck than the SuperDuty--it's lighter.

I will say that the chipped SD I test drove didn't do too bad on acceleration (F-250 Lariat with a V-10.)

-Mike
 
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