2003 5.4 quits after first startup

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Old Dec 26, 2012 | 02:29 PM
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2003 5.4 quits after first startup

Hi I have a 2003 5.4l that when you first start it in the morning it dies right away. But if u hold fuel pedal down a bit when it first starts can make it run. After a minute or more it well run on it's own, but kinda rough running. Then once it's been run for a bit it well idle fine like drive a couple miles up the road. If let it sit couple hours then it does same thing. Just wondering if it might be the IAc or not. No check engine light on or anything.

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Old Dec 26, 2012 | 02:47 PM
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Might be check valve on fuel pump going bad. Letting fuel drain back in tank and not stay in line pressurized.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2012 | 07:21 PM
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Hi thanks for the reply, Do you know if I would be able to check for that?
 
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Old Dec 27, 2012 | 07:23 AM
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Better to clean the IAC valve 1st, on the back side of the throttle body housing.

Best way is to clean the whole throttle body housing, (TBH) there are 2 internal EGR ports in the TBH that, in all likelihood are pretty carboned up too. & then one can clean the back side , or inside of the throttle plate, which can also get pretty grungy. Some good aerosol carb cleaner works well here .

Once the TBH is off then remove the IAC and clean it, making sure that the small internal plunger moves freely, most like WD40 for this. Also this is a good time to inspect the vacuum line elbow for the PCV, which has history of craking causing vacuum leaks

Then clean the MAF sensor, which is just behind, or down stream from the air filter, use aerosol cleaner safe for MAF sensors.

Seems like a lot, but not too bad to do, 2-3 hours and no special tools needed other than screwdrivers and few metric sockets & maybe a extension. (8mm & 10mm if memory serves correct)

( Most parts stores have fuel pressure gauges to rent). Not that the fuel pump anti drain back valve can't be bad, just better to test rather than go replace. Thinking that the Anti drain back valve is integrated into the pump, which in the tank...maybe its in the filter, which would be supper easy to remedy then
 
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Old Dec 27, 2012 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by enriched
Better to clean the IAC valve 1st, on the back side of the throttle body housing.

Best way is to clean the whole throttle body housing, (TBH) there are 2 internal EGR ports in the TBH that, in all likelihood are pretty carboned up too. & then one can clean the back side , or inside of the throttle plate, which can also get pretty grungy. Some good aerosol carb cleaner works well here .

Once the TBH is off then remove the IAC and clean it, making sure that the small internal plunger moves freely, most like WD40 for this. Also this is a good time to inspect the vacuum line elbow for the PCV, which has history of craking causing vacuum leaks

Then clean the MAF sensor, which is just behind, or down stream from the air filter, use aerosol cleaner safe for MAF sensors.

Seems like a lot, but not too bad to do, 2-3 hours and no special tools needed other than screwdrivers and few metric sockets & maybe a extension. (8mm & 10mm if memory serves correct)

( Most parts stores have fuel pressure gauges to rent). Not that the fuel pump anti drain back valve can't be bad, just better to test rather than go replace. Thinking that the Anti drain back valve is integrated into the pump, which in the tank...maybe its in the filter, which would be supper easy to remedy then

X2 for Idle Air Control valve.
Classic symptom
 
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Old Dec 27, 2012 | 02:50 PM
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K thanks I well check the IAC valvle
 
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