BassCat: I am pretty sure that it is correct. I know several people with the Vortec 5.0 and 5.7's and they all claim that in 2wd/3:73 form that they get over 20mpg. I will argue with you any day on that one. I was very surprised when my 5.0 got 22.1 mpg because I've never heard of a 5.0 getting that mileage.

 

How true mlaugh although I can usually cut a better Deal on a Dodge. They're good for my ups anyway.
fasttriton46 thats the diffrence between the overhead cam and a push motor your hearing. The sound of the future!!
But I'll tell you folks one thing try putting a bottle on a 4.6 or a 5.4 or a 5.3 or a 6.0 and see which one ends up in the street! I do however LOVE my Ford and it's the hit at the lot with the customers and staff, the manager wanted to take it for lunch just today!

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Nastruck1-4.6-377 rears-Superchip-K&N GenII-Dynomax RaceMag With Roush tips-MPC bug shield-40-60 black tint windows-bed liner-class3 drawbar hitch-polk speakers.

 

I've driven all of the new trucks. They are all better than they've ever been. Of all, the Dodge 4x4 had a pretty rough ride. Personally, I liked the way the 4.8 and 5.3 engines performed. Silky smooth with EXCELLENT torque. EXCELLENT shift qualities to. BUT!!!!! From a chasis standpoint, non them seem as sturdy as Ford. Ford manages to get a nice ride with a suspension thats very rugged for hauling or towing.

Fords sour note is the auto trans. I ABSOLUTELY HATE THE WAY MINES SHIFTS. It costs me around town and wot acceleration and economy. (And I do have the superchip!) I notice that alot of people mention rearend ratios. If comparing ratios, remember to consider the whole package- trans. gearing, and tires. My truck with 3:55's turns more rpm than my Chevy work truck with 3:73's.

For me, my ultimate truck would be a FORD with a FORD V-8 (new or old) with a chevy trans.

Chris

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96 F 150 SC 4x4, 5.0, All Black, Custom Cat Back 3 Chamber Flowmaster with dual outs and 3.5" tips, Superchip, and K&N Filter

 

Second that one Chris!!!!!!!!

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1993 F-150 302/e4od/355 Limited slip. dual exhuast w/o mufflers,2 1/4" pipes with Echo Tips, headers, accel plugs/wires(8.6mm)/rotor/cap, hypertech powermodule, NEED INFO ON BLASTER COILS Alpine cd player and Pioneer speakers.(Front, need info on rears)

1989 F-150 XLT 4x4 302/aod true duals with turbo mufflers, 30X9.50" wild country tires, 3:55 gears w/LS(want after market LS for front)

 

GEARS:

I am sorry to hear that. I have to disagree with you, but thats what makes this a democratic society.

Your story sounds exactly like the story I had with the 98 F150 I owned. I owned it a total of 4 months and ditched it quick. I was a 15 year Ford owner beforehand. I am not here to bash Fords, especially on a Ford site, but there are bad ones found in all of them. Sorry you got a bad one. For a very long time since, I have bashed the new model Fords, but I have to admit, I probably just got a bad one and should have opted for a 5.4l instead of the 4.6l. Of course at the time, both engines were about the same in performance.

I really like the Silverado I have now and still hold that it will hold its ground with the 5.4l, but that is just my opinion. I thank you for sharing yours.

Take care.

 

I have said that before Chris and I believe you may be right. The reason "I" personally feel (in no way do I say this as a fact, just my opinion) that the Silverado 5.3l has better tow capabilities could be in the transmission. I was really disappointed with the 4.6l I had. However, if I had taken that same 4.6l and matched it to the GM transmission, that may have made me happy.

Especially with Fords torque numbers rated higher than my Chevy, I think that the Ford engine with the Chevy tranny would be a good match. I just don't feel a "lack of torque" in my Silverado in comparison to the Ford I owned and the Fords I have driven.

Ford has had a lot of problems with the weaker transmissions in these new F150's, Expeditions, and Explorers. That may just be the key to a resolution.

Again, I am not bashing Fords. Just stating my opinion.

 

I am a little disapointed in the power on my y2k F-150 5.4 engine with the 3.55 rear end.
This is a 4x4. Around town the power is great but I have a somewhat small flatbed trailer that I tow three dirtbikes and one quad from San Diego. Going to the desert is fine,but coming back up the grade on I-8 I can only manage 60mph. That is not a bad I guess towing a trailer,but my parents half ton Suburan with the 350 motor would tow the same load at 75mph+. The Suburan is a half ton too. Plus it had better torque. The damn thing get 20+mpg too. Amazing enigne.
But being a GM product it also has weird viabrations,when you shift into 4x4 it makes a "clunking" sound and also pops out of 4x4 sometimes!LOL. I would never own a GM product. But I do love that motor of theres.
Anyway,any suggestions on improving the towing power? I have read all about the superchip,better exhaust,K&N ect but you think that will make much of a difference for towing? I am thinking about getting the 4.10 gears installed. BTW what is the redline on the 5.4 engine? Thanks

Tom

 

Tommm, In your post your'e saying (i guess) you are driving a 2000 F-150 4X4, 5.4L with 3.55 rears.
If this is what combo you drive, how big and what's the weight of your trailer?
Do you have the tow package, and just how much of a grade is the intersate you take back home?
I drive a 2000, 1600 miles on it and I've pulled about 5000# tralier down I -40 which is fairly level, but has a few grades about 3-5 % and I can keep a running speed of 70 mph at all times, it will kick out of OD on a couple of grades and I slow it dowm to 60mph, and speed limit is 70 mph, so I keep an eye on traffic behind me,(keeping my speed down for the break in period) but not being able to make 60 mph, with a trailer hauling your dirt bikes, I don't understand???
I will say, I am very disgusted with the new tranny in my 00, it doesn't compare to my 97 one bit
I think Ford HAS a big problem with the transmissions and WE the owners are paying the price.......

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DOGCAM
2000 F150 Lariat flareside 4X2
S/C
5.4, 3.55 Ls, Tow Pack, Captain
Chairs, White clearcoat/w
harvest gold & wedgewood blue accent,17"X8"
BFG T/As 275x60s on chrome wheels
Mods:K&N Filter, True duals
(Dynomax) with 3.5 chrome
tips out behind the rear
wheels
dog46cam@webtv.net
dogcam@myf150.com

 

How are the Chevy manual trannies?
Do they cut the towing in 1/2 like the Ford manual trannies do ?
The manual trannies in the new F150s are lame IMHO.

 

BassCat,

I noticed you said that you didn't feel the torque in your 4.6 that you felt in your 5.3. That is probably true, since you are comparing apples to oranges. You should be comparing the 4.8 to the 4.6, or the 5.3 to the 5.4. Then differences in power wouldn't be all that noticable.

 

fordby4:

That being said, there is VERY MINIMAL noticeable difference in the seat of the pants feal and driving/towing of the 4.8l and 5.3l V8's. Most of the people who buy the 4.8l buy it because there is mot much difference and because you can't get a manual tranny with the 5.3l. The 4.8l and manual tranny is a wicked combo. It is a strong towing truck with that combo.

Again, I also said that the 4.6l and the 5.4l at that time (before they upped the torque) were almost identical in peformance. The 4.6l I had, had a Superchip in it as the only mod. With the Superchip installed, I could not tell ANY difference between my truck and a buddies 97 5.4l truck.

I was comparing apples to apples.

Take care.

 

I test drove a Chevy after I test drove the ford. The 5-speed manual in the Chevy *felt* like a better tranny. It had more of a "snick-snick" feel when shifting. I'd prefer the Chevy 5 speed. I don't know about the towing being cut in half . . I'm told it's because of the F150's wimpy clutch.

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'99 XL 2x4 4.2L SC 5-Spd SC Black over Silver
Penda Liner, Chrome Tubular Step Bars, Prime Designs Bug Deflector

 

Dogcam
Your going to have some problems if you keep towing that 5000# trailer with your overdrive engaged.
Just thought I'd let you know.

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Nastruck1-4.6-377 rears-Superchip-K&N GenII-Dynomax RaceMag With Roush tips-MPC bug shield-40-60 black tint windows-bed liner-class3 drawbar hitch-polk speakers.

 

In some ways it seems to me that Ford has taken the attitude that got the whole US auto industry in trouble in the 70's. That is the attitude that instead of listening to what the customer wants we will decide what they want. ie:a soft shift transmission and a stereo that cannot be upgraded without replacing the head unit along with a engine that is very difficult to do regular maintance on like changing the plugs.

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lovell1, I only pull it (a friends boat), down Interstate 40 from Raleigh to Wilmington about twice a yr.
I took it down ,so I could try out this new 00, and we were trying to see just what it would do.
I would never try to use OD in pulling on average, this was more of a test,only 125 miles or so.
Will say one thing, 97 5.4=235HP,00 5.4=265HP,and the 97 did a much better job in pulling, mainly due to a good job in shifting, but the 00 handles better........Take Care

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DOGCAM
2000 F150 Lariat flareside 4X2
S/C
5.4, 3.55 Ls, Tow Pack, Captain
Chairs, White clearcoat/w
harvest gold & wedgewood blue accent,17"X8"
BFG T/As 275x60s on chrome wheels
Mods:K&N Filter, True duals
(Dynomax) with 3.5 chrome
tips out behind the rear
wheels
dog46cam@webtv.net
dogcam@myf150.com