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Old Jul 22, 2012 | 04:22 PM
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Pulled the hoses off of the DPFE, the ends on the sensor looked gunked up. Used the compressor to blow the lines clear, used steel wool on the sensor to clean the outside of the tubes and a small screwdriver to clean the insides reconnected and WOW! Its running strong. The miss is history and no more check engine light. Going out for a drive, Thanks for the help.
BS, the DPFE hoses have absolutely nothing to do with how the engine runs lol.

Don't blow air into there. The DPFE is a ceramic, capacitive type pressure transducer. You'll screw it up.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2012 | 05:25 PM
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BS, the DPFE hoses have absolutely nothing to do with how the engine runs lol.

Don't blow air into there. The DPFE is a ceramic, capacitive type pressure transducer. You'll screw it up.


The '97 - '03 DPFE sensors generate a signal between 0V and 5V. I do agree that you shouldn't blow compressed air into it.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2012 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Takeda
The '97 - '03 DPFE sensors generate a signal between 0V and 5V.
Are you asking? If so, I can elaborate.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2012 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by jbrew
Are you asking? If so, I can elaborate.
I was making a statement.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2012 | 10:13 PM
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I was making a statement.
That's correct. There's two signal wires w/a VRef,- 97-03. And that's only true when the pressure differential is @ 0. Actual is between .45 and 4.5 Sig/Sig Return, to narrow it down even more.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2012 | 10:25 PM
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That's correct. There's two signal wires w/a VRef,- 97-03. And that's only true when the pressure differential is @ 0. Actual is between .45 and 4.5 Sig/Sig Return, to narrow it down even more.
There is actually only 1 signal wire (single ended) the sig return is a GND reference for the comparator in the PCM.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2012 | 10:52 PM
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Pin 1 = DPFE/Signal
Pin 2 = Signal Return
Pin 3 = VRef

Simple version. Two hoses, one on each side of the pipe orifice. EACH hose samples the pressure on EACH side of the orifice (upside and the downside). The PCM NEEDS two signals for comparisons in order to compute the gas flow through the EGR pipe and make the accurate adjustments to engine operation.

I'm not lyin to yuh man.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2012 | 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by jbrew
Pin 1 = DPFE/Signal
Pin 2 = Signal Return
Pin 3 = VRef

Simple version. Two hoses, one on each side of the pipe orifice. EACH hose samples the pressure on EACH side of the orifice (upside and the downside). The PCM NEEDS two signals for comparisons in order to compute the gas flow through the EGR pipe and make the accurate adjustments to engine operation.

I'm not lyin to yuh man.
Once again, the comparator input for the DPFE signal is single ended with signal return being a GND reference. VREF=5V. The same comparator circuit is used for the TPS. The DPFE senses a differential in pressure, but the electrical signal is NOT differential.
 
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Old Jul 22, 2012 | 11:17 PM
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I didn't say that lol.

It's alright.
 
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