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Old Aug 7, 1999 | 01:28 AM
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hi guys im sure this question has been asked before but here goes

im looking for a newer truck and started thinking about getting a 97+ F-150 but the 4.6 scares me a little bit as i dont think it would have enough torque to properly tow. Im looking for something that could easily tow my 90 LX mustang (3000lbs) plus the trailor and all the other stuff (5000lbs total?) I would go ahead and look at bigger F-250s etc but i need something that would be comfortable on the wallet driving it everyday

anyways my question is are any of you guys using your 4.6 F-150s to haul your cars around? how well do they tow? and if you could get the chance to get something else to tow with besides the 4.6 would you do it?

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Old Aug 7, 1999 | 07:13 AM
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Mike,

I constantly carry over 1,000 pounds of crap in the back of my 99 F-150 4.6 auto and tow at least 2,000 more at least once a week. I have never had any problems and the truck does not even break a sweat. I think if I were you, depending on how often you will be towing the Mustang, get the 5.4 anyway. The gas mileage difference is small, in my opinion, in everyday driving. I would not hesitate to pull your load with my truck leaving the crap in the back but again it depends on how often. Either way get the factory trailer towing package and definitely get an automatic. The 5.4 comes with some extras too on some models, like an oil cooler, heavier transmission, etc.

Some of the other guys in here tow a lot, maybe they have a better answer.


By the way, I was recently given a 1971 GMC pickup by a family member and I am going to Atlanta, Ga in a few weeks to get it and tow it back down here to Sarasota with my F-150. It is probably about 5,000-6,000lbs. total. I have no doubt my truck will do it with confidence. Even in the hills on the way home. Good luck.
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Old Aug 7, 1999 | 10:34 AM
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Ive towed easily 4000lbs before, and it pulls nice. I have no problem. My max trailer weight for my hitch is 5000lbs but the engine can do more than that I am sure of. Or you can get the bigger 5.4 which does the job with ease, towing more than 7000lbs. Well, If you end up going over the max trailer weight of the 4.6, you have a problem. But it would be hard to go over the 5.4's with what you have. Its up to you.

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Old Aug 7, 1999 | 11:07 AM
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MGager,

I have a 97 F150 S/C LWB with a 4.6 and a 3.55 gear. I pull a heavy open car trailer with my truck. With a 3000+ lb. car on the trailer, I can get up to expressway speed (70 mph) fairly easily. I do need to floor it up most hills to keep from losing speed.

I think the answer to your question depends on a few things. Do you live in a hilly area? If you do, get the 5.4. Do you plan on towing an enclosed trailer (or anything with more frontal are than your truck)? If you do, get the 5.4. Does it bother you to work your engine hard. If it does, get the 5.4.

Like I said earlier, I am happy with the towing ability of my truck. I live in a flat area, never tow an enclosed trailer, and don't care if I work the engine hard. I think it helps that I have the 3.55 gear and towing package. Being a loaded S/C LWB 2 WD, makes my truck heavy. If the truck you buy weighs less, it will pull even better.
 
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Old Aug 7, 1999 | 11:54 AM
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thanks guys ive heard a lot about a piston slap problem with the 5.4L trucks. im assuming this is a "ticking" sound? any other problems the piston slap could cause?

if it matters i would probably be looking for a 97 model, extended cab, short bed, 2WD, automatic

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Old Aug 10, 1999 | 01:37 AM
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seacrow and Bent 6 are telling you good tips. Don't forget to turn overdrive "off". The tow package is very important too. Mine tows pretty good and I am very impressed with the power around 3000 to 4000 rpm. The SOHC 4.6 Likes to rev.

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Old Aug 11, 1999 | 12:14 AM
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McGager,
I consistently carry 1000lbs of payload (camper shell, gear and four passengers) and tow a 3000lb boat in a mountainous area. I have the 4.6l, 5spd and 3.55 rear end. It tows wonderfully! And gets very respectable mileage.

If you get the 5spd, don't waste your money on a tow package. You can get a receiver and all for less than $180 installed. If you get the automatic, you'll want the tow package to keep the tranny cool.

This is my 3rd Ford truck. The most important factor in my experience is the rear end... the 3.08 doesn't allow enough rpm's for towing.

Good luck!


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Old Aug 11, 1999 | 01:00 AM
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I just got my truck and have not towed anything personally, but I have a friend with a '97 XLT 4.2 (yes a V6) 5spd 4wd who uses his truck a daily transportation on the farm. He has towed a fully loaded (13,000lbs+) fertilizer buggy to the field with no problem. So i think you could be fairly safe with any F150 engine/tranny option you choose.

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Old Aug 11, 1999 | 09:40 PM
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Sure he can tow it, but how fast?
 
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Old Aug 11, 1999 | 10:35 PM
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You want to get the tow package no matter what transmission you have. $400. (sticker) gets you the hitch, electrical hook up plus oil and trans cooler. Installing all of these aftermarket costs much more. I'd sure hate to have an "otherwise warrenty covered" problem occur from towing with a vehical that didn't have the tow package.
 
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Old Aug 12, 1999 | 11:56 AM
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Only the 5.4L gets an engine oil cooler and only automatic transmissions have coolers (there is no "fluid" in a manual transmission to cool). Tow pkg does include a larger radiator and altenator regardless of engine/tranny combo. I'm not sure about F150s, but all Expeditions come with trailer wiring already installed. All factory parts are covered under warranty as long as you don't exceed the specifications of the vehicle or abuse it.

I tow a 3000 lb boat & trailer plus 31 gal of gas in the boat, 30 gal in the Expedition and all the camping gear with NO tow pkg. For less than $300, I've added a nice round-tube hitch and a tranny cooler that's 3x larger than OEM. The 4.6 is a little slow getting started in the 100+ degree heat, but once up to speed, 70-75 mph is nothing. Of course, a few mods help.

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Old Aug 12, 1999 | 01:42 PM
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If you are concerned about both PRICE and TOWING capability, get a Super Duty! I got the F-250 Super Duty (bought it to tow) and paid less for a Crew Cab Long Bed than my buddy paid for his F-150 SC!!! I have a V-10 and he's only got a 5.4l V-8. The big cost difference??? He got the ORP and I have a 4x2.
We have same roof height - mine weighs more but gets better mileage.
I was amazed that one could get a Super Duty for less than a 150. It's true! I ordered mine through the Fleet Manager and he bought his "off the lot".
Good luck with whatever you decide to buy. I love my Super Duty. (It even has it's own web-site )

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Old Aug 12, 1999 | 03:18 PM
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I haven't drove a stick in years-soory about the missinfo. But I have the 4.6 w/tow. and it has an oil cooler.
 
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Old Aug 12, 1999 | 04:26 PM
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If you are talking about the little cooler in the lower right corner (as you look through the grille at the radiator), then that is the power steering cooler. The following is a post from Tim A.:

Only the 5.4L engine offers an engine oil cooler. The engine oil cooler is an oil to oil cooler, not air to oil. The engine coolant is circulated through a collar around the engine oil to remove heat. Look at your lower rad hose. If you see a "tee" with the 3 hoses coming from it. You have the engine oil cooler.

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