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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 09:23 PM
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5.0 Vs 5.0

So now Ford has another 5.0 what is the letter designation going to be separating from the 5.0w or the 5.0c (Cleveland) The 5.0c was only made in Australia but still it should have dibs on the c. 5.0m for modular? Were it not for the Cleveland it should be c for coyote.. I've notice there is already a little confusion..
 
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 09:33 PM
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Might just have to start calling the "old" 5.0 a '302' again... Going back to when engines were only known by their cubic inches.. Not this 'Liter' stuff...

I've never known the Cleveland or Windsor being linked to the 'Liter' engine.. Only the cubic inch ones... Those 351 Cleveland's were pretty stout! Not that a 351 Windsor wasn't, but you can't beat those Cleveland heads and valve size..

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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 09:42 PM
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Might just have to start calling the "old" 5.0 a '302' again... Going back to when engines were only known by their cubic inches.. Not this 'Liter' stuff...

I've never known the Cleveland or Windsor being linked to the 'Liter' engine.. Only the cubic inch ones... Those 351 Cleveland's were pretty stout! Not that a 351 Windsor wasn't, but you can't beat those Cleveland heads and valve size..

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When I buy parts for my Mach I its in the parts catalogs data base as 5.8c (Cleveland) separating it from the 5.8w. Guess they use metric for even old stuff now. Didn't used to be to much confusion here in the states for the 5.0w vs 5.0c because the Cleveland 5.0 was only sold in Australia..
 
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 09:59 PM
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Wasn't a "5.0c" the old "BOSS 302"? I thought they put on some huge 'Cleveland' style heads on a 302 and that's what made it a "BOSS"? (Well, among other things of course..)

I had a '86 5.0 GT and it was just your typical 302 with Windsor heads, roller cam and Multi-Port FI.. I wish I still had it!!
 
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 10:01 PM
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But I guess 5.4 does sound better then a "330"

I do like "351" over 5.8 however!

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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by MitchF150
Wasn't a "5.0c" the old "BOSS 302"? I thought they put on some huge 'Cleveland' style heads on a 302 and that's what made it a "BOSS"? (Well, among other things of course..)

I had a '86 5.0 GT and it was just your typical 302 with Windsor heads, roller cam and Multi-Port FI.. I wish I still had it!!
The Boss 302 was a hybrid, Cleveland heads Windsor block. Its considered a Cleveland by the Cleveland crowd and a Windsor by those people.. (more confusion)
 
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 10:09 PM
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Most refer to the 302 Boss as 302b
 
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 10:39 PM
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I refer to a "BOSS" anything as "expensive"!

When I was a senior in HS (1981), a buddies father had a "BOSS 351" Mustang.. I always liked that generation body style... Another buddies father had a "USA" coupe.. It only had a 302, but it was a blast to drive! Didn't they also put 429's in the '71-'73 Mustangs?

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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 11:09 PM
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But I guess 5.4 does sound better then a "330"

I do like "351" over 5.8 however!

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5.4 = 331
4.6 = 281

anyways. why not 5.0 2v (old) and 5.0 4v (new)??
 
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 11:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Patman03SprCrw
5.4 = 331
4.6 = 281

anyways. why not 5.0 2v (old) and 5.0 4v (new)??
Not to be a A$$, but isn't

1 litre = 61.0237441 cubic inches

so....

5.4 litres = 329.528218 cubic inches ??



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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 11:23 PM
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Not to be a A$$, but isn't

1 litre = 61.0237441 cubic inches

so....

5.4 litres = 329.528218 cubic inches ??



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http://www.fordf150.net/specs/engines.php


5408 CC to CI = 330.0164066686908

so we were both wrong?
 
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Old Dec 23, 2010 | 11:34 PM
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And, the 302 is technically only 4.9L.... But then, that would get confussed with the inline 6 '300'. Kinda how if you say you have a Dodge 5.9L engine, that could be the 360 V8 or the Cummins I6....

I've never liked metric and when I was a kid, it was threatened that we would have to learn that stuff!! Yeah, yeah, I know it makes more sense being base 10 or whatever, but I know what an inch, foot, yard, mile, cubic inch, gallon, pounder is in relation to the world much better then a centimeter, millimeter, meter, kilometer, liter, kilogram or whatever they call all that metric stuff....

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Old Dec 24, 2010 | 12:31 AM
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I think the year is sufficient to distinguish the smallblock 5.0L from the modular 5.0L. But let's leave c.i.d. for carburetors. The 5.8L is the EFI version of the 351W.
 
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