How can you tell if a MAF sensor is bad?
How can you tell if a MAF sensor is bad?
I went by autozone and i was told it was probably the MAF. I used the special cleaner, however it didn't help.
the truck cranks up fine, and will even idle while cold for a short time. However when it warms up, the rpms drop down to where it'll go dead. It runs just fine when the wheels are rolling.
is there anyway to tell? i hate to spend $100 on a hunch. and i hate to bring it in to a dealer and get reamed for XXXXXX$$$$$, you know how that goes.....
thanks in advance
2002 F150 2x4 4.6 Triton
the truck cranks up fine, and will even idle while cold for a short time. However when it warms up, the rpms drop down to where it'll go dead. It runs just fine when the wheels are rolling.
is there anyway to tell? i hate to spend $100 on a hunch. and i hate to bring it in to a dealer and get reamed for XXXXXX$$$$$, you know how that goes.....
thanks in advance
2002 F150 2x4 4.6 Triton
Last edited by chrisd; Oct 16, 2010 at 10:33 AM.
it'll hurt the engine, really.... Didn't know that if so.
i'll go back and get the codes, he just told me it was "1 and 2", and that was usually the MAF.
as above 2002 F150 4.6 triton 2x4
i'll go back and get the codes, he just told me it was "1 and 2", and that was usually the MAF.
as above 2002 F150 4.6 triton 2x4
Last edited by chrisd; Oct 16, 2010 at 10:38 AM.
Have the codes checked first to see. I don't think you have a bad maf.
The vehicle uses the cold start fueling map (choked) when it is first started, so it will overcome some problems with the addition of fuel until it exits the cold start cycle. It sure sounds like a vac leak somewhere, or possibly worn front O2 sensors??
You can run and drive with the maf disconnected.
Good thread........
http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/....php?p=2349680
The vehicle uses the cold start fueling map (choked) when it is first started, so it will overcome some problems with the addition of fuel until it exits the cold start cycle. It sure sounds like a vac leak somewhere, or possibly worn front O2 sensors??
You can run and drive with the maf disconnected.
Good thread........
http://www.explorerforum.com/forums/....php?p=2349680
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Stop back by Auto Zone. Ask them to scan it again for you, - write the codes down from the scanner. Write exactly what the scanner says, - tell them you want to see the code (or cods). DTC's to be exact. Take a pencil and paper with you.
P0136
circuit condition (heated oxygen sensor bank sensor 2)
P0156
same as above
P0171
trim bank one condition
P0174
fuel trim bank two condition
P01131
lack of bank 1 02 transitions - lean explanation
p01151
lack of 02 switches bank 2 sensor 1
my truck has 200,000 miles on it, if that helps any. never any problems before.
thx again.
circuit condition (heated oxygen sensor bank sensor 2)
P0156
same as above
P0171
trim bank one condition
P0174
fuel trim bank two condition
P01131
lack of bank 1 02 transitions - lean explanation
p01151
lack of 02 switches bank 2 sensor 1
my truck has 200,000 miles on it, if that helps any. never any problems before.
thx again.
Last edited by chrisd; Oct 16, 2010 at 03:38 PM.
P0136~ Heated O2 Sensor Circuit Malfunction (Bank 1, Sensor 2)
P0156~ Heated O2 Sensor Circuit Malfunction (Bank 2, Sensor 1)
REAR SENSOR FUNCTION
The rear (downstream) HO2S sensors are treated rather differently. The peak and low voltages are also continuously monitored, but if the monitor has not detected a peak or low voltage beyond threshold, then the fuel/air mixture is forced high or low in order to get the sensors to start switching. If this sequence does not 'shock' the rear sensor(s) into switching, then a DTC is recorded.
P0136 - No activity Bank 1
P0156 - No activity Bank 2
Typical voltage thresholds are Rich <0.25 to 0.50 volts and Lean >0.40 to 0.65 volts.
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P1131 ~ Lack Of HO2S11 Switch - Sensor Indicates Lean
P0171 ~System Too Lean (Bank 1)
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P1151 ~ Lack Of HO2S21 Switch - Sensor Indicates Lean
P0174 ~ System Too Lean (Bank 2)
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FRONT SENSOR SIGNAL
The Front sensors are tested continuously for switching during Closed Loop operation provided the Conditions are met. Excessive time between switches, or no switches, indicates a malfunction. Since the lack of switching could be caused by fuel trim shifts as well as a sensor malfunction a stored DTC indicates whether the sensor was always indicating lean or rich when it stopped and if the Fuel Trim was at max.
Where Lack of Switch DTCs are recorded the LT Fuel Trims should be watched closely - if these show well into the negative or positive at idle they could be caused by an air inlet leak or a faulty Fuel Pressure Regulator - meaning that the fuelling has not changed rather than the HO2S not detecting it. Before changing front HO2S sensors Pressure Sensor and Sample Scan first - particularly if there are any starting issues.
DTCs
P1131 - Lack of Switching - Sensor Indicates Lean, Bank 1
P1151 - Lack of Switching - Sensor Indicates Lean, Bank 2
P0156~ Heated O2 Sensor Circuit Malfunction (Bank 2, Sensor 1)
REAR SENSOR FUNCTION
The rear (downstream) HO2S sensors are treated rather differently. The peak and low voltages are also continuously monitored, but if the monitor has not detected a peak or low voltage beyond threshold, then the fuel/air mixture is forced high or low in order to get the sensors to start switching. If this sequence does not 'shock' the rear sensor(s) into switching, then a DTC is recorded.
P0136 - No activity Bank 1
P0156 - No activity Bank 2
Typical voltage thresholds are Rich <0.25 to 0.50 volts and Lean >0.40 to 0.65 volts.
__________________________________________________ _______________
__________________________________________________ _______________
P1131 ~ Lack Of HO2S11 Switch - Sensor Indicates Lean
P0171 ~System Too Lean (Bank 1)
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P1151 ~ Lack Of HO2S21 Switch - Sensor Indicates Lean
P0174 ~ System Too Lean (Bank 2)
__________________________________________________ _______________
FRONT SENSOR SIGNAL
The Front sensors are tested continuously for switching during Closed Loop operation provided the Conditions are met. Excessive time between switches, or no switches, indicates a malfunction. Since the lack of switching could be caused by fuel trim shifts as well as a sensor malfunction a stored DTC indicates whether the sensor was always indicating lean or rich when it stopped and if the Fuel Trim was at max.
Where Lack of Switch DTCs are recorded the LT Fuel Trims should be watched closely - if these show well into the negative or positive at idle they could be caused by an air inlet leak or a faulty Fuel Pressure Regulator - meaning that the fuelling has not changed rather than the HO2S not detecting it. Before changing front HO2S sensors Pressure Sensor and Sample Scan first - particularly if there are any starting issues.
DTCs
P1131 - Lack of Switching - Sensor Indicates Lean, Bank 1
P1151 - Lack of Switching - Sensor Indicates Lean, Bank 2
I have an 01 f150 5.4L that is having starting issues and has popped the codes po1151, po1000, po0151. I had pepboys check it and said it was a bad o2 sensor front driver side. Truck has issues starting every now and then. Changed o2 sensor but problem still exists. I have checked for a vacuum leak and found nothing but noticed a strong fuel smell after attempting to start truck. Pepboys could not dupicate the no starting problem and just told me it was the o2 sensor. Any suggestions as to what it could be.
I think the parts monkeys first fix is you need O2's.. Sounds like the OP needs to check the PVC elbow at the back of the throttle body..
TFJ150 your problem is unrelated sounds like you have a bad coil or plug. Maybe time for a tune up.
TFJ150 your problem is unrelated sounds like you have a bad coil or plug. Maybe time for a tune up.






