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Ron98F150 Aug 21, 2010 02:25 PM

1st time ever 98 F150 won't start
 
Started it this morning to back it out of the garage. Tried to start a few hour later and all I get is a loud click. Lights all work fine. Tried jumping it but still just a loud click. Replaced the battery two years ago and the alternator 3 years ago so I know it isn't teither of those.

Raining cats and dogs right now but when it stops I'll check for ground wire connection. Can a starter just go out all at once? Never had a problem starting from day one.

Thanks,

Ron

GreenBuck50 Aug 21, 2010 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by Ron98F150 (Post 4316327)
Started it this morning to back it out of the garage. Tried to start a few hour later and all I get is a loud click. Lights all work fine. Tried jumping it but still just a loud click. Replaced the battery two years ago and the alternator 3 years ago so I know it isn't teither of those.

Raining cats and dogs right now but when it stops I'll check for ground wire connection. Can a starter just go out all at once? Never had a problem starting from day one.

Thanks,

Ron

Have you ever replaced your starter? I had to do it on mine when it was 6 years old due to the same problem. It did not start, started 15 minutes later with no changes, but I replaced the starter just to be safe and it worked great for a year till I wrecked it.

Ron98F150 Aug 21, 2010 02:43 PM

Never replaced the starter. Never had a single problem starting until today. I always thought starters went bad gradually. True? Not true?

Ron

GreenBuck50 Aug 21, 2010 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by Ron98F150 (Post 4316341)
Never replaced the starter. Never had a single problem starting until today. I always thought starters went bad gradually. True? Not true?

Ron

My situation happened when I had to be at a wedding 10 miles away that day. Thank God it started the second time. My mechanic told me to change the starter to be safe.

Ron98F150 Aug 21, 2010 03:25 PM

I just went out and played around with it and all wires are connected and not corroded so it's not that. I think the sound is more like a mufled clunk coming from the firewall area,if that makes any sense. Still can't understand how something just dies all of a sudden.

Ron

ride r Aug 21, 2010 03:47 PM

i had a similar issue with my 98 exploder 5.0. never had a starting issue. Started it one saturday morning went to the gas station and it wouldn't restart. Had to sit in the freakin gas station lot dropping the started. There's a little ground strap on the started that had fallen apart. Corrosion got the best of it.

jethat Aug 21, 2010 04:59 PM

Ford starters last a long long time. My guess is its the firewall relay the one right next to the battery. Short the big post to the small post with the key in the on position if it starts your problem is the relay.

Ron98F150 Aug 21, 2010 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by jethat (Post 4316415)
Ford starters last a long long time. My guess is its the firewall relay the one right next to the battery. Short the big post to the small post with the key in the on position if it starts your problem is the relay.

Just got back from Auto Zone where they tested the firewall relay and found it was NG. I had them test the new one I was going to buy and it was NG as well. Tried a 2nd one that worked and brought it home and installed it. Still won't start! Changing out the starter is all I know to do at this point.

Ron

jethat Aug 21, 2010 07:15 PM

did you short the posts? could be a connection I would take all battery cable off and clean them on both sides on the engine connect side to. Check the starter cables especially they corrode pretty bad especially in snow areas.. road salt.. Be careful taking the connector bolts off on the starter The corrode and break. Especially on one that old..

glc Aug 21, 2010 07:19 PM

It's probably the solenoid on the starter itself - or corrosion. I'm pretty sure now you may be looking at a starter. They don't last forever.

Ron98F150 Aug 21, 2010 11:05 PM


Originally Posted by glc (Post 4316515)
It's probably the solenoid on the starter itself - or corrosion. I'm pretty sure now you may be looking at a starter. They don't last forever.

I hear ya, but with only 83k miles I wouldn't have guessed the starter would be going bad so soon.

Ron

jethat Aug 21, 2010 11:21 PM


Originally Posted by Ron98F150 (Post 4316703)
I hear ya, but with only 83k miles I wouldn't have guessed the starter would be going bad so soon.

Ron

mileage is kind of irrelevant when it come to corrosion. The truck is going on 13 years old..

ONELOWF Aug 21, 2010 11:58 PM

Mine was corrosion at 5yrs and 40k miles. I suggest removing the oem cable and checking all of the leads for integrity.

jbrew Aug 22, 2010 02:41 AM

Yea, it's most likely just the wires down low. I've never had a Ford starter go out, -but I broke enough of them. Glad theirs a lifetime warranty, - They updated the starters a couple years ago, -Via TSB. They all come pig tailed in the box, - that's so you won't need a 10mm to install it ;) .

Seriously, - it's so Bosch isn't throwing you another starter every other year.

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Do you have a meter ? You can check continuity real quick. -

Measure the resistance between the starter relay to starter solenoid positive cable.

If resistance is less than 5 ohms, - replace starter relay.

If not, replace the circuit in question.

https://www.f150online.com/forums/me...4377-cable.jpg

Ron98F150 Aug 22, 2010 07:56 PM

Problem fixed with a new starter. The wiring coming out of the starter was completely corroded off. Bought a rebuilt one and she purrs like a kitten again. I have to say that the top bolt was the hardest to get out seeing it was in the blind. Per normal, it went back together much faster then taking it out.
Thanks to everyone for the comments/suggestions!

Ron


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