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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 03:15 PM
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Need help determining Engine type (please)

Vin tag says F37ZCFC6706 & 1979
Intake manifold # is D1TE 9425 BA
Has oil reservoir type air cleaner
Dealer Service Mgr said it was a 390.
Commercial mechanic says he thinks its a 351.
Has Ford valve covers.
Auto parts guys can't find 390 (or 360) for 1978 or 1979.
One auto parts guy said probably an earlier year Ford 390.
Another auto parts guy said probably a Dodge 390.
It has a weird two barrel thermostat plenum & barely warms up enough to register slightly above C on temp gauge.
It has a strange box on firewall that connects to speedometer cable from 4 speed trans and another cable goes to dashboard speedometer & another cable goes about 2' & somebody has cut off (don't know where it was supposed to go to).
Sounds great when it runs but its hard to get right parts for when can't properly ID type/yr engine. Been very reliable.
May (or may not) be original engine.
Engine ID Help requested.
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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 03:57 PM
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Yea, tried it the same way - F37ZCFC6706 & 1979

That doesn't exist, you need to copy it down right or something.


Your VIN number: F37ZCFC6706, F37ZCFC6706 & 1979, F37ZCFC6706&1979, F37ZCFC67061979

Your Model Year is Unknown, Please double check VIN number.

Truck Series: Unknown, Please double check VIN number

Engine: Unknown, Please double check VIN number

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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 05:04 PM
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The other number on the VIN tag was 870255 but I figured that was a serial number & thus not impt to this question. It's an old F350 & looks like about 1979. I also saw the number 1978 somewhere else on the vehicle (I'll try to remember where). I'll go back & check the numbers you are questioning. The numbers I've provided were stamped into a metal tag riveted into the driver's door.

Appreciate your help.

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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 05:08 PM
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If it turns out to be a 390 0r 360, don't ever let the guy that thought it was a 351 touch it.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 05:10 PM
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There should be a number stamped on a head somewhere, see what that says.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 05:12 PM
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The Vin is one list of letter /numbers in the dash/drivers side corner up by the front window, the title or registration will have this also. Is it a stolen vehicle? How come you don't know this number? You have to lol.

Right it down as it displays on the dash.
 

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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 05:15 PM
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Should also be a number stamped on the block, toward the rear. You're going to have to get a number off the engine if it has been swapped. The VIN won't be necessarily correct. The 390 is very unique, part of the FE series. There are two 360s, one is an FE and the other is similar to a 429. the heads are completely different of the FE series.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 05:24 PM
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According to the VIN, you have a regular cab F350 with a 400 engine. The last FE in an F150 was in 1977 so the 390 is out unless it has been married as an after fact.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 05:38 PM
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If it is the original engine, there shoud be some engine pieces stamped with a number starting with D9 and if it is a 400, then that is why the guy thought it was a 351. They look the same as a 351M but not a 351 Windsor.
 
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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 06:07 PM
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The only V8's that a 1979 F350 was offered with were 351M, 400M, and 460.

HOWEVER - the part # on that intake manifold is for a FE engine, which would be a 360 or 390 (or another size transplanted out of a car). To confirm, look at the spark plug orientation. The FE's looked like this:

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The center 2 plugs are angled toward each other.
 

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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 06:17 PM
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The intake part number is for the M or 400 block, not an FE or FT. Actually the FE and FT designs were truck engines that were moved to the car line. The FT, as you probably know, are the industrial strength FEs with a few changes. I have a highly modded FT in an F-100 with GT heads that everybody wants to say won't fit. It's been pretty bulletproof so far and God knows I've tried to kill it a time or two.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 08:30 AM
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Will confirm @ dealership

Looks like I'll need to return to dealership to have them confirm engine type. One of the mechanics said it was probably a retired U-Haul (reason for the weird speedometer cable hookup (one cable from trans to box on firewall, second cable from box on firewall to speedometer, third cable from box was cut off but lay near the right front wheel well). All of the numbers provided in both of my earlier posts were correct as posted. Sticker above left fender (I hadn't noticed earlier) said, "Ford F350 (TC & Refurb TT only - 330 engine)". The non-dealership mechanics finally seemed to agree that it was a 390 - he also added that these are terrible regarding taking off the exhaust manifold because bolts get stuck in place. The plug configuration is as glc has drawn. The VIN shown on registration is F37ZCFC6706 and it is shown as 1979. I'll try to remember to drive it to work tomorrow so I can take it to Ford dealership for confirmation. I'm grateful for all your input. Great Forum!

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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 09:20 AM
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post a picture of the engine bay...
 
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Old Jan 25, 2010 | 03:00 PM
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One of the mechanics said it was probably a retired U-Haul

Ford F350 (TC & Refurb TT only - 330 engine
Those were the clues I needed. You have a 330 FT engine. For parts, try looking them up for a 1977 F-500.

http://www.vintagetruckmagazine.com/....php?f=4&t=150
 

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Old Feb 1, 2010 | 09:14 AM
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More F350 info

Sorry I got sidetracked last week. Had trouble with the starter. On a whim, I got a rebuilt starter from Crow Burlingame for a 1977 Ford 390. I changed it out yesterday. It looked exactly like the one that came off of it. The new one fit perfectly and starts right up. Problem was worn down gear teeth on starter.

Does anyone know what other engines this same starter would have fit?

Also again, the spark plug angle orientation is as described by GLC for a 360 or 390.

However, GLC indicates that other info indicates its a 330 FT (& I should look up 1977 F500 for parts).

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