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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 04:09 AM
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v10 swap harness questions

i'm sorry to say that this is not in a f150, i usually don't join forums just to post a question and get an answer but i'm going to be honest here, i do not own an f150, i used to (86 2wd 4.9 4 speed) but i dont anymore. it looked like there were a couple guys on here that swapped v10's into f150's but i'm having a hard time finding an answer using the search and reading through the threads.

to start with i'll be putting this v10 into a 93 lincoln mark 8. i just have a few questions about the wiring.

is the tranny controlled by the same computer that controls the engine or is it separate?
if its all one computer then what should i do about the tranny wiring?
the engine, harness, and computer are from an auto, i'm using a manual tranny.

i've also read somewhere, something about security issues and having to have the matching lock cylinder and key to go with the computer, is this true? if it is, is there a way around it?

is there an affordable stand alone option that will control the fuel and ignition for a 10 cyl out there? if there is then i would much rather go stand alone but the only ones i can find that will run 10 cylinders cost more then the car, engine, tranny, and a full tank of gas combined cost.

oh and does whipple still make a supercharger for this motor? i couldnt find anything on their site. if they dont, then does anyone else?
 
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 04:25 AM
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#1 - what year of V-10 are you workign with?

#2 - what do you have with the V-10 from the donor vehicle?

#3 - what transmission are you using?

#4 - did you read any of the V-10 swap threads?

#5 - what mods do have now and besides the supercharger what are you planning???


a lil' more info will be helpful so you can be guided down the correct path, as most likely you'll use the V-10 ECM and engine harness with a stand alone box for the tranny...
 
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 04:49 AM
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its out of a 99 e250 van all i have from the donor vehicle is the engine, harness, computer, and accessories, the engine is complete, tb to oil pan, and everything is there, the belt is still on it. i'm using a tremec 3650 out of a mustang gt for a tranny. i have NO mods, thats why i was asking if anyone still makes a supercharger, more specifically a whipple twin screw, i'd prefer twin screw or roots style, i cant do a centrifugal due to space issues, it will definitely have a custom intake and exhaust made though, looking at the space i'm working with and the size of the motor custom headers will probably have to be made, and i'll more then likely just straight pipe the exhaust, maybe i'll put some glass packs on if the neighbors are that lucky. and i could only find one v10 swap thread and the guy in there was talking about re pinning his harness.

youre last statement sounds like it clears a lot up to me anyway, i didnt know i had an option to use a stand alone box for the tranny.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 05:13 AM
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you will not need a tranny box since it's a manual, you will need the tranny "told" it's a manual trans in the tune


there are no kits being manufactured at this time for the 2 valve V-10's, so you're only option at this point in time is a used kit...


you will need to run the V-10 ECM and engine wiring harness, I am not sure if it will commmunicate with your cluster in the car though


the V-10 is only a lil' wider than the 2 valve 4.6 but it is longer


good luck and keep us posted on your progress...
 
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 06:36 AM
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i figured i'd be stuck looking for a used kit lol, i might just make a custom intake manifold to fit a kb or eaton unit on there, might be a bitch to get the pulley's worked out but it'll be fun in the end lol, i wasnt sure if a tune would be able to cover the fact that its a manual tranny, i talked to a few guys and they told me they werent sure how it would work out. as far as the cluster goes, i dont really care too much if it works or not because it will more then likely be pulled out anyway for a new set of gauges. the car is getting gutted, caged, and fuel celled, the only reason behind going with a fuel cell is because its the only way to clear for subframe connectors without blocking the tank, if i weld connectors in and my fuel pump goes out then i gotta cut them out to drop the tank so celling it is just easier. thanks for all the help, i bookmarked this page so i'll get some pics up as progress moves along, i just got my garage free'd up for a couple of days (i do some side jobs for friends and such to make some extra cash) so hopefully i'll get some time to get out there and at least get the engine mounted up.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 07:41 AM
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well I'll be waiting as I am considering swapping a 6.8 into my wife's expy (with a procharger on it)
 
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 07:55 AM
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thatll be a bad *** swap lol, i was actually thinking about putting it into a ranger but then i picked up this lincoln with no engine and no tranny for $150, everything else is there and in pretty good shape, i feel kinda bad for gutting it and all but i have another one that's all together for a dd oh and i have a 2.3 turbo i can use to throw in a ranger lol.
 
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I can foresee a major wiring headache trying to put an OBD2 (EEC5) computer into an OBD1 (EEC4) vehicle.
 
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Old Oct 7, 2009 | 02:39 PM
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i'm not looking at it as obd1 vs obd2, right now its obdNONE lol, its stripped down, the interior is the next to come out, it'll be like putting the engine into a hot rod i guess, theres absolutely nothing there for it to have to work with.
 
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v10 swap

Originally Posted by tictactone
i'm not looking at it as obd1 vs obd2, right now its obdNONE lol, its stripped down, the interior is the next to come out, it'll be like putting the engine into a hot rod i guess, theres absolutely nothing there for it to have to work with.
I know this is an old post. but did you ever figure out the wiring issue?
 
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Old Oct 6, 2022 | 08:57 AM
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You replied to an old thread.

However, there is a way to control the WSG-1068 engine that doesn't involve PATS anti-theft and that is using a Ford Power Products ECU. Essentially turning it into a standard engine (old school). I know of someone who did this and I gave them this idea and it worked well for them. They worked with a local genset company that sold power generation equipment with that engine in it. However, they aren't doing superchargers or anything like that. They essentially stuffed the engine in their truck and ran the ECU that they got and let it be. I know that it was de-rated compared to what you'd get from the automobile line specs.
 
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