Where does this 20,000 - 30,000 come from? - didn't we go over this!? Yes, we know you are going to wait until 100,000 miles, which you'll likely never get to, you're too busy posting to be driving it too much................

Jon Bourget, states he had a Motorcraft fail after 6 months, should I then state that the Motorcraft's only last 6 months?

The Champion Ford 3-Valve High-Thread Plug part number 7989 is double platinum (just like the Motorcraft).

Has a 1-piece shell (unlike the Motorcraft a little carbon, will not cause it to twist apart upon removal).

All Champion Double Platinum Plugs (including the 7989) have a 5-year Unlimited Mileage Warranty (again unlike the Motorcraft, actually I'm not sure what the Motorcraft warranty is, they just say 100,000 interval, maybe they hope you'll never try to take them out!?)


Yes, I know "your dealer" sold you the Motorcraft plugs for $10, but that is not the market price. Spark Plugs dot com & Summit Racing both sell the Champion for $12.95. Champion can't avoid that the fact that the 1-piece machined shell costs them more to make than Honeywell sells the complete Motorcraft plug to Ford for.

http://www.sparkplugs.com


http://www.summitracing.com

 

the only time you have to worry about the motorcrafts breaking is when removing the original plugs- as long as you perform the tsb and use antiseize they will come out fine the next time or at least they wont stick to the carbon. and unlike the champions the motorcrafts are made to fords specs. the only reason champion made a 1 piece was so that they could actually sell some plugs, and so far they have been proven that they are just like the champions for any other engine-they suck.

 

Back off Ed, the oringial poster said he would be changing them at 20,000 to 30,000. I was just reponding to his post. You do the same, please and leave me alone. I will post my opinion and you post yours. You have a biased opinion based on loyalty to a friend, and I have a biased opinion based on what I have experienced and read from others.

 

quick question for the op- what year is your truck? and what motor? if 4.6 then dont even consider champions. if its a late 07-08 then once again dont consider the champions.

 

That's not true.

It's really to bad the Champions don't have Motorcrafts longevity in the 3 valve modular. I know I had high hopes that federal mogul could finally produce a decent plug. I was recommending them at first , that is,-until the reports came in... - My bad :o

It's gottuh be a difficult to get that heat range correct for the platinum plugs. I've heard NGK is trying, but it's my guess their not going to release anything until it's fully and thoroughly tested. They haven't failed once in the past and most likley want to keep it that way.

Regardless, Motorcraft should be the one to step up the design. They already have had the heat range down of course. The mystery is, - why haven't they? Ford changed the plug chamber design for 08, -that's done, but what about the 04-07 3 valves ? There isn't a solid fix... ?? Why?

 

I myself would not put a POS champion in a go kart. Motor craft Denso NGK.. Thats it.

 

I wouldn't either, but I do have a Champion that's lasted two seasons in a 9 hp Briggs. My leaf blower w/cruise control lol. Yea, it's a J19 I think? "Fine Wire" - Starts first pull @ half choke.

Just don't let go of that sucker when blowing in forward mode. I went to grab a few hefty sticks that were in the way, let go of the handle and blower took off,- blowing itself backwards. I ran after it for awhile, but couldn't catch the damn thing. I have a nice dent in my 14' aluminum pole barn door as a reminder

That took a few to get over. I didn't find it that funny at the time, but it's funnier than hell around the bonfire.

 

The total of $100 , was the deductable for the cam phazer/ sylenoid job. The cracked motorcraft plug only had about 10k on it. stuff happens. What realy bothers me is having them tell me one worked itself loose. To the point that I was hearing a ticking soud. Poor workmanship would most likely be the culprit. At that service the tech. also left a shop rag in the engine compartment. I discovered it hanging around the p/s pulley when I checked her over when I got home, Also scuffed up my recently painted front bumper cover and left my doorpanel greasy and seat dirty. I never mentioned the grease and dirt to the service manager but let him know about the rag. One hates to sound like a whiner , But they should know when shoddy work is happening , I keep my truck very clean and to let someone else trash it when they're working on it is B.S.

 

I bought my truck new, and it now has 110K miles and Im still using the plugs that it came with....Motocraft FTW

 

I never mentioned changing them at 20,000-30,000. I was just wondering if there was other plugs for our trucks rather than the motorcrafts. I prefer to use NGK but there isnt any plugs out for our trucks from them. And I have a 2005 FX4 5.4 w/ 54,xxx miles on it. I will most likely be getting the autolite HT1's. I can get a good deal on them and what I have read are a pretty decent plug.

 

Thank you ride 002, for whatever reason, I've learned two people can look at the same thing and see something totally different.

NGK is making a lot of the new design plugs for Ford/Motorcraft (including the new 5.4 3-valve with the redesigned heads) but at this point I doubt they'd pursue the challenge of making a plug for your engine.

 

There are 4 brands of plugs available at the present time - 2 piece Motorcrafts and Autolites (2 heat ranges on each), and 1 piece Champions and Brisk. The Brisk is a racing plug - cold heat range and copper instead of platinum.

 

I apologize for my mistake. I was so sure that the OP had said he would change them at 20,000 to 30,000, I did not even look back until I read this. I read it right before I posted, but it must have been someone else in another thread. I have done a search and not found it yet. I will look again, I hate it when I make a mistake like that. Regardless, he did not say that and I am sorry for adding that confusion.

 

Ok, I found it. It was HYPO in this thread, not the OP. So, again, sorry for the confusion, but my thoughts on the concept remain the same.

 

my 2002 4.6 had the factory plugs in them and i changed them at 116K and theres wasnt anything left, im not sure how the truck still ran, i went back to motorcraft when i changed mine...i know mines not a newer truck or a 3v, still my 2 cents

and jbrew thats a funny story maybe i should change the PLUG in my weedeater, the champion in my lawnmower will get after it, self propelled you gotta run after it if you have full throttle!

the throttle stuck once and i let go to kill it, and it killed mamas flowers! not funny at the time but funny around a campfire like you said!