Holy guaca thread from the dead. Last posting was over a year ago.

 

wow old thread....

anyways...the problem with Frams is not their filtering ability. Their problem is they tend break apart/collapse internally and the anti drainback valve does not seal properly on 90% of them.

 

Fram has a cardboard anti drain back vs plastic on other oil filters..

 

The Fram Tough Guard may have a silicone ADBV, but that's not the orange can of death that most people buy when they buy a Fram filter, that's an Extra Guard.

 

Now I have used Fram for a long time now. I always bought the most expensive filter they offered. I think it is the tough guard. But anyway, after doing a little research, I have come to find out the motorcraft filter is a way better filter, and it is cheaper!

SOLD!

 

Castrol GTX 5w-20 and motorcraft filter FTW.

 

I too have used FRAM filters for years in many many GM vehicles with NO PROBLEMS.... My Vette, and WS6 and others have NEVER had an engine issue.

Maybe all the talk here is that the FORD engine is very sensitive to a lesser amount of lubrication at startup and the problem actually lies there. What do you do when you change your oil and the first start up automatically has a lower flow of oil, can you expect your FORD engine to dissolve?

Yes I understand about the check-valve and how it keeps a majority of oil from returning to the pan via gravity but a sensitive engine is NOT the fault of FRAM or other brands. Maybe what you all should suggest is that you believe that Motorcraft is a better way to go with the FORD motor rather than saying that FRAM is CRAP..... It is easy to bash..................... TOO EASY!!!!

Because I read this forum, I only use a Motorcraft filter on my 07 F150 as I will take your word that is is the best choice for this motor but I do not believe that it is a reason to say that FRAM is a bad product. Maybe just a bad choice for a Ford due to its motor design..................

 

When a check valve is made of card board rather than plastic and colapses, then I consider it an inferior product, myself. I seem to recall there have been records of the filter element coming apart, destroying an engine. Also, there is a search project out on the net where a guy purchased and cut up many different filters and wrote a report. His finding for the Fram were not good at all.

 

Bluejay, I thank you for your opinion but unless you PERSONALLY can say you have had issues with this product, other than "work of mouth", your input is moot.... As I said, I have used FRAM for many years on other vehicles and have had to date, NO ISSUES.....

We are talking hundreds of thousands of miles over a number of vehicles... and I have never had a motor issue. That is FACT not OPINION.....................

I will continue to use the Motorcraft filter on my F150 knowing about the cam phaser issues etc.....................

 

I used fram oil filters for 6 months on my truck and it made the rattling noise on start up. I read up on it and replaced it with motor craft used it for a year and it still makes the noise. The oil im using is full synthetic.

 

As I recall, he did find that the gray Tough Guard filters were actually pretty good. The regular orange Fram ones, however, are the poops.

 

correct

 

There's a ton of info on the net about Fram oil filter failures. Take a look:
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=...c62da33e2ff469

I'd suggest making lunch and supper if you intend to read all of it. The key to a decent oil filter for the OHC Triton is a filter with a silicone anti drain back valve. The Fram doesn't use one. Failures of the media and the glue at the cardboard end caps are all over the net. But the failure doesn't mean that your engine won't survive it. Most of todays engines are extremely clean. With todays gas formulations, the oils are not exposed to the contaminants of just 10 years ago. So if you are using Fram filters, you may have had one fail but you never knew it. If you like a Fram filter, yer a big boy now, buy what you like. It's your money, your truck, your engine.

If you are using a PAO based synthetic, there's yer problem. Unless you have the actual need for a PAO, try a blend next time.

 

So what are you gonna do IF you are one of those that have lost an engine to a Fram coming apart (and there have been many)? Just say well, those are the breaks, you lose some, you win some. What if they'd give you a good deal on a car that had air bags that only failed on half the cars, figure Oh well, I'm not planning on being in an accident anyway? I feel anyone who wants to spend their money on Fram filters should go right ahead and do so. Who gives a crap if the "Orange can of death" is a piece of inferior junk (Oh yea, that doesn't count for anything, that's only my opinion, and a few million other peoples too), the people who make that piece of junk gotta eat too right? You can buy my share of 'em, I got smart enough to quite using 'em years before I ever saw the internet or ever read anything about 'em, which only confirmed my experience with 'em.

 

That would be "Word of mouth" and your point is moot.