I was wondering if anyone has used the valvoline synpower oil/ has heard of good results with it. I run the dino in my f150 w/ 4.2 no problems at all. I have the 4.6 in my mustang and have been using royal purple but I think its more of a joke than anything thought about giving the valvoline synpower a try. The reason I came here to ask even though its a mustang is bc its the 4.6 and any mustang forum you go to they all crave and drool over royal purple even considering it a mod for their car, but I still have yet to find any proof that this stuff lives up to its name.

 

There are 3 types of synthetic - PAO, Gp3 dino, and ester. They are all good. The only real advantage of any of today's synthetics over any quality dino oil is extended change intervals are possible. The other differences that used to be considerable years ago are a lot less due to constantly improving dino oil technology. If you are going to change your oil every 5k or less, just use the standard cheap Motorcraft 5W20 semi-synthetic, it's less than 3 bucks a quart at Walmart. I think it's better than pure dino of any brand. Use a Motorcraft filter too.

I run Mobil 1 EP with a Mobil 1 filter, but I go for 10k changes.

 

I'd be interested in hearing labnerds opinion on Valvoline being marketed as "4X better wear protection" than Mobil 1s full synthetic.

Thanks

 

Thanks, maybe I will just go ahead and go with the motorcraft. Im a bodyman at a ford dealer so I get a pretty good deal on it. I was just trying to see if I could find something a little better that actually has some supporting evidence. Although it appears that as long as you use a good filter and correct change intervals what you use doesnt seem to matter much.

 

Comparing the API certified M1 and Synpower is pretty easy actually. They both are mostly a dino Gp III basestock. Per MSDS and CAS number, Synpower is 60-80% dino Gp III and no mention of any PAO or ester but it is suppose to have both. M1 is about the same in Dino Gp III but with some of M/Es ultra high VI PAO. In basestocks, they are about even with a slight nod to the M1. Both have good add packs that compliment the base so they are just about even. Neither does anything remarkable and neither turns in any bad reports. But if I were spending the money for a premium oil, I'd be using Pennzoil's Platinum. It is a Gp III, Gp IV, and a slash of Gp V. The add pack is also pretty decent. Mileage reports on a run of it we just started with a Ford 2.0 has shown a fuel mileage increase. I'm not sure if the mileage increase is due to driver or the oil as we just started the testing but it looks promising. The test is going to take several months so if the report isn't proprietary, I'll post the results. What I'm seeing on initial reports has me wanting to use it on my next oil change in my 4.6.

FWIW, as the Synpower and M1 goes up in viscosity rating, so does the concentration of PAO. So a 15-50 or such will have more PAO in the mix to make the spread. PAOs will have a higher Viscosity Index and as such, will make the spread from a Xw cold oil to XX rated oil at temp without the aid of Viscsosity Index Improvers or polymers.

Galaxy, thanks for the info on Amsoil. I haven't had the time to look/research your comments earlier about the add packs. I generally don't see much on non-API Certified fluids.

 

Labnerd, thanks. As always, interesting reading.

So the "4X better wear protection" is just a marketing ploy? 4X sure seems BIG. But bigger is more misleading to the general public, I guess.

Anything to Quaker State's QHorse showing more HP? They seem to push that marketing hype pretty hard, too.

 

ive heard alot of bad about the QS Q power,

but if i wasnt running such a long lasting oil (amsoil) i would do mobil 1 or valvoline valvoline makes good oils,

 

That is well stated.

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It really can be that simple. Today engines produce more horse power have better fuel economy and last longer; tires ride smoother grip better and last longer; shocks ride better and last longer; spark plugs go burn hotter and last 100k; brakes grip better run longer and are easier to replace; batteries run more equipment and last longer; transmissions handle more torque and drive farther; headlights light up more road and last longer; the heater makes less noise and puts out more heat; the mirrors show you more; even the radio has less static.

Technology at work for you. If you want to really appreciate all this, just take a 67 Chevy out for a long ride some day.