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Old Jul 5, 2008 | 01:46 PM
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It funny you mentioned "valve job" - This 64 292 smoked , you could smell the oil burnin

Had a 3 in tree trans as well. Same guy had an old Model A truck.
I can't remember, but the 292 did have hydrolic lifters didn't it.

Don't you like the smell. jbrew
 
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Old Jul 5, 2008 | 01:57 PM
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I can't remember, but the 292 did have hydrolic lifters didn't it.

Don't you like the smell. jbrew


I don't know about the lifters. But yea, I think deep down , everyone likes that smell - Or is that something else?

Well I like the smell of Bel-Ray pre-mix back in the Motorcross days.
 

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Old Jul 5, 2008 | 02:38 PM
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Nope, the 292 had solid lifters. It also had soft rings and valve guides, which is why they burn oil. It also had a rocker shaft oiling problem, which is why a lot of people had to put external oil lines on them.

1964 was the last year it was used in US trucks - the F-100. It stayed in production overseas into the 80's. I think the last year it was used in US cars was 1962.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2008 | 02:58 PM
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The fastest car in high school back in the late 80's was a AMX w/390 2 seater - The stangs couldn't even beat that car. Hardly ever see those two seater's, back then there wasn't many around. Seen allot of AMX/Javlins , but not that specific year when they carried just the AMX nameplate - I think they were a fast back as well.

So it was "Tuff "alright -tough to beat.
 

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Old Jul 5, 2008 | 03:10 PM
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I had a 300 I-6 in my 92 F150 with the 5 speed manual. Love the engine, lots of torque and pretty quick for what it is. I still have a 300 I-6 engine and transmission that I got out of a truck that was rolled. Wanted to put it in my 65 Mustang but it is about 6 inches longer than the 200 I-6 that is in there. Seen it done and the guy had Nitros as well. I just wanted to put it in there for the extra horsepower and speed but I'm not willing at this point to get that extreme.
My favorite engines: Ford 289, Boss 302, Boss 429, Boss 428, and of course the Cobra Jet. I'm not saying that the Chevy or Mopar engines aren't any good, those are just my choices.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2008 | 03:58 PM
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The fastest car in high school back in the late 80's was a AMX w/390 2 seater - The stangs couldn't even beat that car. Hardly ever see those two seater's, back then there wasn't many around. Seen allot of AMX/Javlins , but not that specific year when they carried just the AMX nameplate - I think they were a fast back as well.

So it was "Tuff "alright -tough to beat.
I don't remember what the cubic inch was, but a guy at my school had a Gremlin with a factory v8. Screamer, and scary to. It had too much for the chasis.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2008 | 04:04 PM
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I don't remember what the cubic inch was, but a guy at my school had a Gremlin with a factory v8. Screamer, and scary to. It had too much for the chasis.
- You sure that was a V8 ? I knew a guy that had a Gremlin with a built V6 that beat allot of V8's. Maybe it was a Buick V6 - Guys in the 4wheeling department back then where doing the same. They would take a Toyota 4x4 / yank that 22r/20r no hp motor and thro in a Buick V6. Those little trucks would go thru some mud.
 

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Old Jul 5, 2008 | 05:20 PM
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i feel all motors are good....

4.6 has cooling problems with the passanger side back 2 pistons

300 blows head gaskets and has a lack of power and poor mpg...

i have owned 300 4.6 and 5.4 2v and 3v..
wish i never got rid of the 3v 5.4 but it happens
 
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Old Jul 5, 2008 | 05:41 PM
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- You sure that was a V8 ? I knew a guy that had a Gremlin with a built V6 that beat allot of V8's. Maybe it was a Buick V6 - Guys in the 4wheeling department back then where doing the same. They would take a Toyota 4x4 / yank that 22r/20r no hp motor and thro in a Buick V6. Those little trucks would go thru some mud.
I think it was a v8. You couldn't get a shoehorn under that hood.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2008 | 06:02 PM
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I think it was a v8. You couldn't get a shoehorn under that hood.
Wow , yea I guess there wouldn't be much room left. Mann, I can't imagine putting that much work into such an ugly car
 
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Old Jul 5, 2008 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by jbrew
- You sure that was a V8 ? I knew a guy that had a Gremlin with a built V6 that beat allot of V8's. Maybe it was a Buick V6 - Guys in the 4wheeling department back then where doing the same. They would take a Toyota 4x4 / yank that 22r/20r no hp motor and thro in a Buick V6. Those little trucks would go thru some mud.
I had fun with my Buick. It was a '77 LeSabre with a nitrous injected 403. Total sleeper. I miss those days.

 
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Old Jul 5, 2008 | 07:50 PM
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I had fun with my Buick. It was a '77 LeSabre with a nitrous injected 403. Total sleeper. I miss those days.
Yea, that looks like a sleeper for sure. The only giveaway is the tires. That really didn't mean much tho - Just made yuh ? Sure looks fast under the hood...

Yea , the Buick V6's tho , at one time it seemed like that was the motor allot people were after - they were versatile as far as implants. I can't recall the trans , I think it was a T-350 or 400 just guessing.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2008 | 08:01 PM
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Yea, that looks like a sleeper for sure. The only giveaway is the tires. That really didn't mean much tho - Just made yuh ? Sure looks fast under the hood...

Yea , the Buick V6's tho , at one time it seemed like that was the motor allot people were after - they were versatile as far as implants. I can't recall the trans , I think it was a T-350 or 400 just guessing.
The average age of the members on my website is probably 20, and while many of them are rather intelligent, none of them could understand the importance of the Buick Grand National, and it's turbo V6. I got tired of arguing with them, and just did a simple write up. I'm sure you'd appreciate it...

To understand the reason why that car [1986 Buick Grand National] is legendary, you have to put yourself in a completely different scenario than the one we live in today.

For 15 straight years, all cars got heavier and slower. Seriously slower. The reigning champ had been the GM F-body that entire time, and it's best offering, the Z28, never put out more than 190 horsepower in it's very best engine. In '75, the best you could do was 155 hp. The average Corvette engine during that time had 200 hp or less, and was only up to 240 hp by 1986.

Muscle cars were dead, and were never coming back. There weren't any stock cars at the tracks, only older cars that had been modified. The only thing anyone used a stock car for was to tow their 15+ year old muscle car to the track.

There hadn't been an American car built in 15 years that could break a 14 second 1/4 mile. In fact, in 1986, the fastest Z28 couldn't even break the 15 second 1/4 mile, and the Corvette's best time was 14.6.

In comes Buick, with a Regal, a car that could comfortably seat 6 adults. It was conservatively rated at 235 hp, and ran a 13.9 second 1/4 mile, bone stock, right off the showroom floor. The next year it was even quicker, running the 1/4 in 13.5 seconds. The Buick Grand National was the fastest car built in America in 1986, and it was the fastest car you could buy in America in 1987. Only two other production cars were faster in 1986, the Lamborghini Countach 5000S, 13.7 1/4 mile, and the Ferrari Testarossa, 13.6 1/4 mile. Both were beat by the Grand National in 1987.

And the real kicker was it only had a 231 cubic inch V6 in it. Race tracks across the country started to change their rules, no longer allowing a V6 to race against a V8, because it was kicking their asses.

It was like a sign from God, if you believed in one. After 15 dismal years, a savior was born, and of all things, it was a Buick V6 family car.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2008 | 08:03 PM
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I have been beattin the **** out of 351's, 5.0's, & 4.6's on a daily basis for the last 20 Yrs., in my Ford Police Interceptor Crown Vic's! All motors are stout! The earlier 4.6's used to smoke (blue) after 80K miles after idiling for a spell, however the newer 4.6's seem much better!.........
 
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Old Jul 5, 2008 | 08:20 PM
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The average age of the members on my website is probably 20, and while many of them are rather intelligent, none of them could understand the importance of the Buick Grand National, and it's turbo V6. I got tired of arguing with them, and just did a simple write up. I'm sure you'd appreciate it...
Good Writeup!! That brings back memories -Yes, I learned of the Grand National first hand. I had the last year IROC (1990) Right out of the showroom one of those Grand Nationals got at the start and kept pulling away. I only lost $20 after he opened the hood and NO nitrous was to be found :o



BTW - That car was stolen right from the spot it was sitting in that pic - I had 13,000 miles on it.

Oh and Tumba - There's your 350
 

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