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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 09:08 PM
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Is this a good setup? and am I dreaming?

I recently ordered a edge programmer and am about to order a Magnaflow si/do exhaust and AF1 intake/filter. I am putting this on my 06 FX4 supercrew 5.4, I have done a lot of research on this site and this looks to be a good combination of mods. My question is with this setup is it safe to run the edge on program 2 (87 octane fuel) and am I dreamin' if I think this is going to get me close to 350hp. What I really need is more torque, I pull my quad around.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 09:22 PM
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Sell the edge when you get it

Allot of research should have pointed you toward the XCAL II.

With your model - mods as added and thru datalog , you can tweak the tune as you go -even better thru Troyer or any other good tuner in your area. That's not dreaming, just the reality of things.

The 3 valve really flys when tuned right, also you can captilize on torque - Custom Canned
 

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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 09:28 PM
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Ok point taken but I already purchased the edge and that is what I am going to run. Is the canned tune alright to run with this setup?
 
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 09:34 PM
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Why ? Well nevermind

You can post in the the superchips forum and the forum for your model - That would be the 2004 + forum.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 09:41 PM
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THe Edge may not play well with the AF1 intake. It will work great with your SIDO exhaust. Some people on this board are haters. You have to take what they say with a grain of salt. The Edge is a nice unit with some awesome features. I, personally don't want to wait for 3 months+ to get custom tunes. I have been running the Edge Evo for almost 3 years. I got mine right when they first hit the market. How heavy is your quad? Is it in a closed trailer? If not, you're looking at 1200# maybe. I tow an 8500# travel trailer on a regular basis. I have no issues at all. The edge on lvl 2 will produce awesome torque. If you really want custom tunes, you can trade the Edge in at Power hungary performance for a new Gryphon with custom tunes. Bill and Corey can fill you in on the details. They are regulars here. They are also site sponsors. Bill can tune to whatever specs you want. I want to do this, but I cannot be without the tuner during prime tow season. In the off season, you bet I will be doing this. Bill can custom tune to your mods and make the truck do what you want it to do. Search Gryphon on this forum. Have a great night
 
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by the4by4freek
THe Edge may not play well with the AF1 intake. It will work great with your SIDO exhaust. Some people on this board are haters. You have to take what they say with a grain of salt. The Edge is a nice unit with some awesome features. I, personally don't want to wait for 3 months+ to get custom tunes. I have been running the Edge Evo for almost 3 years. I got mine right when they first hit the market. How heavy is your quad? Is it in a closed trailer? If not, you're looking at 1200# maybe. I tow an 8500# travel trailer on a regular basis. I have no issues at all. The edge on lvl 2 will produce awesome torque. If you really want custom tunes, you can trade the Edge in at Power hungary performance for a new Gryphon with custom tunes. Bill and Corey can fill you in on the details. They are regulars here. They are also site sponsors. Bill can tune to whatever specs you want. I want to do this, but I cannot be without the tuner during prime tow season. In the off season, you bet I will be doing this. Bill can custom tune to your mods and make the truck do what you want it to do. Search Gryphon on this forum. Have a great night
Thanks alot, that is some great info, I'm going to hold off on the intake!
 
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 10:46 PM
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THe Edge may not play well with the AF1 intake. It will work great with your SIDO exhaust. Some people on this board are haters. You have to take what they say with a grain of salt.
AND some are just a$$ holes who like to start sh^t

Yes, the edge units have had problems with the AF1's - That right there should give you hint. The AF1's are one of the best intakes on the market. That's only part of the problems you CAN have using the edge. The older 97-03 two valves even had problems with it. I was trying to help, but some are just haters.

I like the edge cosmetically, it looks nice in the cab. If your looking for performance, why take a chance with something that's inferior to the XCAL 2 and has been plagued with problems in the past. You really think that's wise ?

- You HAVE TO WAIT for any tune after data logging - it's part of the process know matter who's doing your tuning. I suggest you make sure you know what your talking about before making an attempt to discredit someone. What I posted is the facts and that is generally what info the OP is usually after. I would be.

I think it's more like you have an edge and your trying to feel better about it

Your absolutely correct -

"You have to take what they say with a grain of salt"
 

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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 11:06 PM
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a lot of people have never had a problem with edge. if it was such a bad device that was full of problems, im pretty sure they wouldnt have lasted long on the market. im pretty sure ford had a bad batch of trucks out at one time or another. i think i heard about a recall once or twice.
i agree though, if you are looking for max performance, the edge isnt the way to go. the edge gives good gains, but at the same time gives you gauges, good looks, and a pretty good price that combo.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2008 | 11:12 PM
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I agree, well sort of. The edge programmer has had some issues in these trucks and after market mods, there not at all versitile as a programmer could and should be, the average Joe may be content with that. Conveniently, you don't acknowledge that of course. Yea , Fords not perfect, if that has anything to do with it.
 

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Old Jun 29, 2008 | 11:04 AM
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I am just tired of the same people saying the same stupid things. The guy just bought an Edge. You tell him to get rid of it? WTF!!!! What kind of a stupid answer is that? He asked a question and you tell him to get rid of it.He hasn't even gotten it yet! You need to rethink your holier than now attitude and give people advice. All you had to do was simply tell him that YOU had issues with the Edge and you don't particularly care for it. THATS IT! Not get rid of it and call Troyer and get an SCT. Like already mentioned, SOME people have had issues with the Edge and intakes. It is written and one could read for several days on the issue with a simple search. If you re-read me post also, you will see that I also suggested that if he really wants an intake, he can trade the Edge in on a Gryphon with custom tunes and do whatever he wants. It just seems that every time someone mentions the Edge jbrew says Get rid of it. Or it's trash, don't do it. Or something else to that effect. Dude, GET OVER IT! You got your precious SCT, you have no more issues, you are happy. You don't have to bash a product just because YOU had an issue. After you program your truck, your SCT tuner goes back in the glove compartment and thats where it sits. Some people need gauges depending on what they do with the vehicle. OK, I feel better now.
I have had ZERO issues in over 40,000 miles with my truck and the Edge. I actually use my truck to tow 8500# on a regular basis and it made great improvements to the towing ability.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2008 | 11:14 AM
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How is that stupid ? Folowing this suggestion would net the OP better results. Think about it.

BTW-I never had an EDGE. I never had an SCT. Never had a tune. I know plenty of people who have. Why are you saying such things ? They are incorrect. I have a hardware tune in my E4OD,that I did myself, that's about it.

What I'm telling you is the facts. That's it. Looks like you have problems that I don't think I can help you with. -Sorry :o

I don't know what to say to that. So go ahead keep talking, won't say another word.
 

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Old Jun 29, 2008 | 11:28 AM
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WOW, sorry I guess that I even asked the question! But I did buy the edge and no I am not going to get rid of it before I even try it, I have read a lot of posts that say it is worth the money. I use my truck to haul mine and usually another quad around, I don't need to have "maximum" power I just don't like how everytime the truck looks at a hill it downshifts and then there is this big pause upshifting. I just don't want to throw my money out the window on something that may not work together well. I do appreciate all the input guys!
 
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Old Jun 29, 2008 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by jbrew
How is that stupid ? Folowing this suggestion would net the OP better results. Think about it.

BTW-I never had an EDGE. I never had an SCT. Never had a tune. I know plenty of people who have. Why are you saying such things ? They are incorrect. I have a hardware tune in my E4OD,that I did myself, that's about it.

What I'm telling you is the facts. That's it. Looks like you have problems that I don't think I can help you with. -Sorry :o

I don't know what to say to that. So go ahead keep talking, won't say another word.
Then WHY are you making comments on something that you don't own, and have never owned? That in itself is ridiculous. To the OP, THe Edge will do exactly what you are looking for. You can adjust your 3-4 shift points to a later shift. You will then be able to hold the gear you want. I tow with OD locked out. I can climb all the hills I want with the torque converter locked. If I need more power, I can simply manipulate the throttle just a bit and unlock the converter and climb all day long. How heavy are the 2 quads? What kind of trailer? Total weight, geographic location, Hilly or flat, This will all make a difference in how your truck performs. My trailer is 33"-11" long, 8' wide and 10' tall. It is like towing a brick. Without the programmer, the truck shifts out of 3rd into 2nd at the slightest incline. With the tuner, It holds 3rd with no problems and a simple lock or unlock of the torque converter will allow me to tow the way I want. I also get decent MPG when towing. 10 MPG in the hills and 12-14 on the way to the beach. It used to be 8 in the hills and 10 on the way to the beach. THis of course depends on weather. Headwinds suck MPG period. It also makes the truck work a bit harder. I can still hold 3rd with no problems but the torque converter unlocks more often.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2008 | 12:36 PM
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^^^^^^
 
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Old Jun 29, 2008 | 12:38 PM
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I'd say my quad is a tad over 800lbs, the other one that is usually on the trailer is 650lbs. Its and open landscaper, 14ftX5ft deck tandem. I live in Ontario Can, the roads heading up north are long hills....thats when it unlocks the converter then downshifts. After the hills there is always this long hesitaton between shifts. Even coming off a on ramp there is a HUGE wait between shifts, that has to be my biggest complaint about the truck.
 
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