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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 08:21 PM
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Some Gas saving tips, read on, I got in my Email today thought I would pass them on............




We are also paying higher, up to $3.50 per gallon. But my line of work is in petroleum for about 31 years now, so here are some tricks to get more of your money's worth for every gallon.

Here at the Kinder Morgan Pipeline where I work in San Jose, CA we deliver about 4 million gallons in a 24-hour period thru the pipeline. One day is diesel the next day is jet fuel, and gasoline, regular and premium grades. We have 34-storage tanks here with a total capacity of 16,800,000 gallons.

Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the early morning when the ground temperature is still cold. Remember that all service stations have their storage tanks buried below ground. The colder the ground the more dense the gasoline, when it gets warmer gasoline expands, so buying in the afternoon or in the evening....your gallon is not exactly a gallon. In the petroleum business, the specific gravity and the temperature of the gasoline, diese l and jet fuel, ethanol and other petroleum products plays an important role. A 1-degree rise in temperature is a big deal for this business. But the service stations do not have temperature compensation at the pumps.

When you're filling up do not squeeze the trigger of the nozzle to a fast mode. If you look you will see that the trigger has three (3) stages: low, middle, and high. In slow mode you should be pumping on low speed, thereby minimizing the vapors that are created while you are pumping. All hoses at the pump have a vapor return. If you are pumping on the fast rate, some other liquid that goes to your tank becomes vapor. Those vapors are being sucked up and back into the underground storage tank so you're getting less worth for your money.

One of the most important tips is to fill up when your gas tank is HALF FULL or HALF EMPTY. The reason for this is, the more gas you have in your tank the less air occupying its empty space. Gasoline evaporates faster than you can imagine. Gasoline storage tanks have an internal floating roof. This roof serves as zero clearance between the gas and the atmosphere, so it minimizes the evaporation. Unlike service stations, here where I work, every truck that we load is temperature compensated so that every gallon is actually the exact amount.
Another reminder, if there is a gasoline truck pumping into the storage tanks when you stop to buy gas, DO NOT fill up--most likely the gasoline is being stirred up as the gas is being delivered, and you might pick up some of the dirt that normally settles on the bottom. Hope this will help you get the most value for your money.

WHERE TO BUY USA GAS, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW. READ ON
Gas rationing in the 80's worked even though we grumbled about it. It might even be good for us! The Saudis are boycotting American goods. We should return the favor. An interesting thought is to boycott their GAS. Every time you fill up the car, you can avoid putting more money into the coffers of Saudi Arabia. Just buy from gas companies that don't import their oil from the Saudis. Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that every time I fill-up the tank, I am sending my money to people who are trying to kill me, my family, and my friends. I thought it might be interesting for you to know which oil companies are the best to buy gas from and which major companies import Middle Eastern oil.

These companies import Middle Eastern oil:
Shell.......................... 205,742,000 barrels
Chevron/Texaco........ 144,332,000 barrels
Exxon /Mobil............... 130,082,000 barrels
Marathon/Speedway... 117,740,000 barrels
Amoco...........................62,231,000 barrels

Citgo gas is from South America, from a Dictator who hates Americans. If you do the math at $30/barrel, these imports amount to over $18 BILLION! (oil is now $90 - $100 a barrel)
Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil:
Sunoco.................0 barrels
Conoco.................0 barrels
Sinclair................0 barrel
BP/Phillips...........0 barrels
ARCO...................0 barrel
 
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 09:07 PM
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Good Info, Everyone Should Read!!!!!!!!!!!!

I personally feel beter about forking over my money now to Sunoco.
I knew about the kicked up dirt from a recent gas delivery, but did not know that the extreem expansion /evaporation issues played such a role.

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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 10:35 PM
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Does anybody know who Kroger gets their gas from or Walmart?
 
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 10:41 PM
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thanks for the tips
 
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Old Mar 26, 2008 | 10:42 PM
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Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil:
Sunoco.................0 barrels
Conoco.................0 barrels
Sinclair................0 barrel
BP/Phillips...........0 barrels
ARCO...................0 barrel

I usually use 76, which is a Conoco brand. This may steer me clear of those other stations. I'll stick with American oil.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 12:05 AM
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I gave up on Kroger Gas. A.) I worked there in the Dairy Dept. The milk probably has more octane in it than the gasoline. B.) That's discount stuff, no idea.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 12:49 AM
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Good tips! My dad drives a gas tanker and he agrees w/ this post highly!! where I live his stations USED to be citgos untill my dads boss found out bout that American hating brazilian dictator and he told them(citgo) to get their sheit off of all of his stores!! like 20 in all-now they are Z X's and they are a local midwestern brand that DOESNT import forgin oil at all-just my 2 cents
 
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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 12:57 AM
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Pretty much all of those refineries listed have joint ventures with each other.

Citgo is Venezuelan. They have a joint venture here along the Houston Ship Channel with Lyondell. Hence, the LyondellCitgo refinery.

Chevron and Phillips have a joint venture near my residence.

BP bought Amoco, which now exists in dreams only.

You get the drift.

The other junk....just that. Junk. Fuel storage tanks are too far underground to be affected by temperatures above ground. Really.

Glad to clear this up.
 

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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 01:51 AM
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thanx for the info.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 09:04 AM
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Walmart gas is Murphy, they have their own refinery.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by champ7
WHERE TO BUY USA GAS, THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT TO KNOW. READ ON
Gas rationing in the 80's worked even though we grumbled about it. It might even be good for us! The Saudis are boycotting American goods. We should return the favor. An interesting thought is to boycott their GAS. Every time you fill up the car, you can avoid putting more money into the coffers of Saudi Arabia. Just buy from gas companies that don't import their oil from the Saudis. Nothing is more frustrating than the feeling that every time I fill-up the tank, I am sending my money to people who are trying to kill me, my family, and my friends. I thought it might be interesting for you to know which oil companies are the best to buy gas from and which major companies import Middle Eastern oil.

These companies import Middle Eastern oil:
Shell.......................... 205,742,000 barrels
Chevron/Texaco........ 144,332,000 barrels
Exxon /Mobil............... 130,082,000 barrels
Marathon/Speedway... 117,740,000 barrels
Amoco...........................62,231,000 barrels

Citgo gas is from South America, from a Dictator who hates Americans. If you do the math at $30/barrel, these imports amount to over $18 BILLION! (oil is now $90 - $100 a barrel)
Here are some large companies that do not import Middle Eastern oil:
Sunoco.................0 barrels
Conoco.................0 barrels
Sinclair................0 barrel
BP/Phillips...........0 barrels
ARCO...................0 barrel
http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/saudigas.asp
 
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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 12:09 PM
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Some Gas saving tips, read on, I got in my Email today thought I would pass them on............




We are also paying higher, up to $3.50 per gallon. But my line of work is in petroleum for about 31 years now, so here are some tricks to get more of your money's worth for every gallon.

Here at the Kinder Morgan Pipeline where I work in San Jose, CA we deliver about 4 million gallons in a 24-hour period thru the pipeline. One day is diesel the next day is jet fuel, and gasoline, regular and premium grades. We have 34-storage tanks here with a total capacity of 16,800,000 gallons.

Only buy or fill up your car or truck in the early morning when the ground temperature is still cold. Remember that all service stations have their storage tanks buried below ground. The colder the ground the more dense the gasoline, when it gets warmer gasoline expands, so buying in the afternoon or in the evening....your gallon is not exactly a gallon. In the petroleum business, the specific gravity and the temperature of the gasoline, diese l and jet fuel, ethanol and other petroleum products plays an important role. A 1-degree rise in temperature is a big deal for this business. But the service stations do not have temperature compensation at the pumps.

When you're filling up do not squeeze the trigger of the nozzle to a fast mode. If you look you will see that the trigger has three (3) stages: low, middle, and high. In slow mode you should be pumping on low speed, thereby minimizing the vapors that are created while you are pumping. All hoses at the pump have a vapor return. If you are pumping on the fast rate, some other liquid that goes to your tank becomes vapor. Those vapors are being sucked up and back into the underground storage tank so you're getting less worth for your money.

One of the most important tips is to fill up when your gas tank is HALF FULL or HALF EMPTY. The reason for this is, the more gas you have in your tank the less air occupying its empty space. Gasoline evaporates faster than you can imagine. Gasoline storage tanks have an internal floating roof. This roof serves as zero clearance between the gas and the atmosphere, so it minimizes the evaporation. Unlike service stations, here where I work, every truck that we load is temperature compensated so that every gallon is actually the exact amount.

Another reminder, if there is a gasoline truck pumping into the storage tanks when you stop to buy gas, DO NOT fill up--most likely the gasoline is being stirred up as the gas is being delivered, and you might pick up some of the dirt that normally settles on the bottom. Hope this will help you get the most value for your money.
http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/household/gastips.asp
 
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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 12:27 PM
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Good info, but the best gas saving tip is still to drive slower. Of course a lot of people will not like to hear it!
 
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Old Mar 27, 2008 | 05:31 PM
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Way to post your emails.
 
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