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From: Joplin MO
Sorry, man - I wasn't chewing on ya - I was actually amplifying on your comment! That was my intent, anyway!
Cost me $573 last summer to cure an intermittent miss with no codes - paid for diagnostic, plugs, wires, and a BG job at the local dealer. Didn't fix it. Third trip back, they slapped a used coil pack in it - BINGO - no charge. They said my coil pack passed ALL tests - go figure. The plugs and wires were "marginal" to begin with so I told them to go ahead, and figured a BG wouldn't hurt when he suggested it.
Let's see - about 150 bucks worth of parts if I had bought them somewhere cheap - dealer has to make money to pay the overhead, the techs, send them to school, and buy diagnostic machinery and tools. I ain't complaining. He also didn't have to GIVE me the coil pack, I offered to pay for it and he refused.
It hasn't missed a beat since. I'll go back to that dealer any time even though their labor rates are higher than any indy shop in town. The indys will get my business that they specialize in (exhaust, body, brakes, etc.) or routine stuff that I don't feel like doing myself and they can't screw up.
Cost me $573 last summer to cure an intermittent miss with no codes - paid for diagnostic, plugs, wires, and a BG job at the local dealer. Didn't fix it. Third trip back, they slapped a used coil pack in it - BINGO - no charge. They said my coil pack passed ALL tests - go figure. The plugs and wires were "marginal" to begin with so I told them to go ahead, and figured a BG wouldn't hurt when he suggested it.
Let's see - about 150 bucks worth of parts if I had bought them somewhere cheap - dealer has to make money to pay the overhead, the techs, send them to school, and buy diagnostic machinery and tools. I ain't complaining. He also didn't have to GIVE me the coil pack, I offered to pay for it and he refused.
It hasn't missed a beat since. I'll go back to that dealer any time even though their labor rates are higher than any indy shop in town. The indys will get my business that they specialize in (exhaust, body, brakes, etc.) or routine stuff that I don't feel like doing myself and they can't screw up.
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Originally Posted by glc
Sorry, man - I wasn't chewing on ya - I was actually amplifying on your comment! That was my intent, anyway!
Cost me $573 last summer to cure an intermittent miss with no codes - paid for diagnostic, plugs, wires, and a BG job at the local dealer. Didn't fix it. Third trip back, they slapped a used coil pack in it - BINGO - no charge. They said my coil pack passed ALL tests - go figure. The plugs and wires were "marginal" to begin with so I told them to go ahead, and figured a BG wouldn't hurt when he suggested it.
Let's see - about 150 bucks worth of parts if I had bought them somewhere cheap - dealer has to make money to pay the overhead, the techs, send them to school, and buy diagnostic machinery and tools. I ain't complaining. He also didn't have to GIVE me the coil pack, I offered to pay for it and he refused.
It hasn't missed a beat since. I'll go back to that dealer any time even though their labor rates are higher than any indy shop in town. The indys will get my business that they specialize in (exhaust, body, brakes, etc.) or routine stuff that I don't feel like doing myself and they can't screw up.
Cost me $573 last summer to cure an intermittent miss with no codes - paid for diagnostic, plugs, wires, and a BG job at the local dealer. Didn't fix it. Third trip back, they slapped a used coil pack in it - BINGO - no charge. They said my coil pack passed ALL tests - go figure. The plugs and wires were "marginal" to begin with so I told them to go ahead, and figured a BG wouldn't hurt when he suggested it.
Let's see - about 150 bucks worth of parts if I had bought them somewhere cheap - dealer has to make money to pay the overhead, the techs, send them to school, and buy diagnostic machinery and tools. I ain't complaining. He also didn't have to GIVE me the coil pack, I offered to pay for it and he refused.
It hasn't missed a beat since. I'll go back to that dealer any time even though their labor rates are higher than any indy shop in town. The indys will get my business that they specialize in (exhaust, body, brakes, etc.) or routine stuff that I don't feel like doing myself and they can't screw up.
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From: MI
Originally Posted by jdog12
ok so if this ECT senser dont work then i will go head and replace my coil pack but ther is a spark from the coil i checkd it
Why are you replacing the ECT ? Just clean it, they get dirty.
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From: Joplin MO
Lets back WAY up, jdog - what makes you think you need a ECT or a coil pack? You have LEAN codes, which means the engine is getting too much air or not enough fuel! I would almost lay a wager that all you have is a vacuum leak - and you can throw parts at it till the cows come home and not fix it. I'm not trying to be rude or belittle you, but you seem to have a problem translating the advice you are getting here to action. If you can't grasp what we are trying to tell you, you will be better served by taking the truck to a technician who is familiar with and is qualified to work on these things - which may have to be the local Ford dealer.
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Originally Posted by glc
Lets back WAY up, jdog - what makes you think you need a ECT or a coil pack? You have LEAN codes, which means the engine is getting too much air or not enough fuel! I would almost lay a wager that all you have is a vacuum leak - and you can throw parts at it till the cows come home and not fix it. I'm not trying to be rude or belittle you, but you seem to have a problem translating the advice you are getting here to action. If you can't grasp what we are trying to tell you, you will be better served by taking the truck to a technician who is familiar with and is qualified to work on these things - which may have to be the local Ford dealer.
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From: MI
Originally Posted by glc
Jim, tell him where the PCV elbow is on a 98 4.2 - I know you have one of those things. I don't have a clue because I've never looked for it on mine, and mine is a 03.
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The PCV valve for the 97-98 4.2L is on the passenger's side valve cover, just have to reach to get it. It's further back than the V8's are - by the firewall.
The 98's also had a problem with those little 3/16 lines by the battery area. The biggest problem is age - Those little vac lines dry out and become real brittle. Just moving them very little may cause one to snap like a twig.
In the past, people have snapped the lines when changing the battery.
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Originally Posted by jbrew
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The PCV valve for the 97-98 4.2L is on the passenger's side valve cover, just have to reach to get it. It's further back than the V8's are - by the firewall.
The 98's also had a problem with those little 3/16 lines by the battery area. The biggest problem is age - Those little vac lines dry out and become real brittle. Just moving them very little may cause one to snap like a twig.
In the past, people have snapped the lines when changing the battery.
The PCV valve for the 97-98 4.2L is on the passenger's side valve cover, just have to reach to get it. It's further back than the V8's are - by the firewall.
The 98's also had a problem with those little 3/16 lines by the battery area. The biggest problem is age - Those little vac lines dry out and become real brittle. Just moving them very little may cause one to snap like a twig.
In the past, people have snapped the lines when changing the battery.
