when does the winter blend start?

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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 08:23 AM
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when does the winter blend start?

Wondering when they usually start shipping the "cheep" stuff for winter. Been so warm here in So. NJ up until the last few days (we still have mostly all green leaves. Just a few yellows and reds).
 
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 10:54 AM
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It's hard finding definitive info, but from what I can find, I think your mandatory date for winter blend begins Nov 1st.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 03:45 PM
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can you tell me where you're looking? And thanks. That sounds about right.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 06:37 PM
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Random Google searches.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2007 | 06:45 PM
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Think I read about it on the EPA [Government] web site : www.epa.gov
Easy way to remember is Thanksgiving to Easter= Winter Blend
 

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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 07:09 AM
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Remember, that's the Drop Dead date! The date when the tanks have to contain the winter blend. Before this date, the station must drop their tanks down to the almost empty mark, and receive a delivery of the winter grade, twice!

What I'm saying is, you'll be getting winter gas at different stations, at different times for awhile.

You can expect to see a drop in MPG of around 10%. Your vehicle will however, probably start. Summer grade gasoline has additives to help prevent vaporization and will cause problems with starting when the weather gets cold.

Just wait! This spring, the whole process repeats! Only in reverse!
 
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 07:31 AM
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You can expect to see a drop in MPG of around 10%.
Just in time for ~$4/gallon gas - great timing!
 
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Better yet, I am about to get my pcm retuned.
 
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 07:47 AM
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Wondering when they usually start shipping the "cheep" stuff for winter. Been so warm here in So. NJ up until the last few days (we still have mostly all green leaves. Just a few yellows and reds).

why do you call it cheap stuff? in additon to oxygenates the winter blend also has formula modifications to increase the Reid vapor pressure so that the fuel will volitilze in cold weather the same as in hot weather to help starting.
 
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Old Oct 31, 2007 | 08:06 AM
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I called it the "cheep" stuff, just like cheep liquor. doesn't give the same bang for the same buck. Just a euphemism meaning I don't like the performance it gives.

Kind of ironic - all the regulations designed to improve air and water quality by introducing additives and mechanical add-ons to reduce emissions, yet they also end up dropping gas mileage significantly. So you end up using more gas, even though emissions might be lower. I wonder if anyone has calculated the true net gain of less emissions + more gas consumption = more emissions????
 
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