EGR Delete
Originally Posted by TECHDOC
Don't get your undies in a bunch, sorry if I used the wrong tem, how is...... "Accelerator control splash shield" I didn't realize you cared so much. I know well that you are refering to the lower intake manifold not plenum but thats just another one of those parts w/ many names.
Anyway, nobody has given me a valid answer as to why remove an impotant device from your engine besides for cosmetic reasons and thats your own business. I merely was trying to understand why so many people think it's a good thing to do. I didn't want to get into a part name battle.
Thanks anyway.
Anyway, nobody has given me a valid answer as to why remove an impotant device from your engine besides for cosmetic reasons and thats your own business. I merely was trying to understand why so many people think it's a good thing to do. I didn't want to get into a part name battle.
Thanks anyway.


You mean Throttle Body Cover ?
And who's battleing ?
Last edited by jbrew; Oct 29, 2007 at 04:42 PM.
Originally Posted by Quintin
It's an emissions control device, that automatically makes it evil, unnecessary, power robbing and communistic. It's The Man's way of holding the little guy down.
Or maybe it's something along the lines of, "I don't know what it is or how it works, so let's just get rid of it."
Or maybe it's something along the lines of, "I don't know what it is or how it works, so let's just get rid of it."
Thank you, thats what I thought, but , if you don't understand it then you shouldnt remove it.
Originally Posted by TECHDOC
Thank you, thats what I thought, but , if you don't understand it then you shouldnt remove it.

Gee , thanx for your lesson
Originally Posted by jbrew
So who has removed it that doesn't understand it ?
Gee , thanx for your lesson
Gee , thanx for your lesson

Let me put it this way, If someone removes it, that person doesn't understand it. Otherwise you wouldn't remove it. That's just logic. I never said YOU did or HE did.
UM, your welcome for the lesson, not that I tried teaching anything to you.
I normaly charge for that.
Originally Posted by TECHDOC
Let me put it this way, If someone removes it, that person doesn't understand it. Otherwise you wouldn't remove it. That's just logic. I never said YOU did or HE did.
UM, your welcome for the lesson, not that I tried teaching anything to you.
I normaly charge for that.
UM, your welcome for the lesson, not that I tried teaching anything to you.
I normaly charge for that.
Not necessarily, Nah , that's not totally true . It sounds like you better keep yours on there tho - definitely...
As for the rest of your comment (teaching) - I prolly forgot more than you'll ever know
..BTW - No Charge 4 that one .
Originally Posted by ONELOWF
I would love to get rid of all of the extra hardware under the hood.
Here's a reason not to-
http://www.asashop.org/autoinc/nov97/gas.htm
Here's a reason not to-
http://www.asashop.org/autoinc/nov97/gas.htm
At least one person understands EGR operation and the chemistry of combustion.
I do not understand why this otherwise great website supports illegal modifications by even printing posts about removing smog equipment.
I know its a free country but without EPA the US was being turned into a giant toxic waste site.
Last edited by rmeidlinger; Oct 29, 2007 at 08:20 PM.
The explanation is more involved that I gave in my eariler reply but is all true and correct.
Ford also started the same in 1973 with a plate under the carb.
Chrysler used ports in the floor of the intake manifold.
It's unfortunate, the young horses don't want to hear this and will still argue the point out of ignorance, after it is explained.
Every Ford motor design dosn't have EGR nor do 'all' other designs.
The reason is the combustion chamber design, compression and cam timeing is so good, EGR is not needed to come in under the EPA limits for the year.
Two examples of this is the 88 Bronco II 2.9L v6 and the 97-2001 Explorer/Mountianeer/Mazda 5L motors.
The 3 valve motors are being worked on to eliminate the EGR by using variable valve timing and other changes, for the future.
Ford also started the same in 1973 with a plate under the carb.
Chrysler used ports in the floor of the intake manifold.
It's unfortunate, the young horses don't want to hear this and will still argue the point out of ignorance, after it is explained.
Every Ford motor design dosn't have EGR nor do 'all' other designs.
The reason is the combustion chamber design, compression and cam timeing is so good, EGR is not needed to come in under the EPA limits for the year.
Two examples of this is the 88 Bronco II 2.9L v6 and the 97-2001 Explorer/Mountianeer/Mazda 5L motors.
The 3 valve motors are being worked on to eliminate the EGR by using variable valve timing and other changes, for the future.
Hey built54 - maybe you don't need a tune - you just need a freakin EGR
This thread is cracking me up...
HEY, I know what my EGR does - I also know that you DON'T need it. Choke on those apples ..
This thread is cracking me up...
HEY, I know what my EGR does - I also know that you DON'T need it. Choke on those apples ..
same here bud, tree huggers just tell ya this stuff, not trying to make enemies here, but YOU DONT NEED IT! lightning after lightning, egr then deleting it, back to back on the dyno shows NO gains and NO loss. I'm not arguing with that, I still passed emissions and it cleans up the engine, keep it if you want it, but your not going to convince me.
Originally Posted by built54
same here bud, tree huggers just tell ya this stuff, not trying to make enemies here, but YOU DONT NEED IT! lightning after lightning, egr then deleting it, back to back on the dyno shows NO gains and NO loss. I'm not arguing with that, I still passed emissions and it cleans up the engine, keep it if you want it, but your not going to convince me.
not a tree hugger- just healthy respect for the environment and quality of life and air. ever have a close relative die because of pollution caused lung disease?
Originally Posted by jbrew
Not necessarily, Nah , that's not totally true . It sounds like you better keep yours on there tho - definitely...
As for the rest of your comment (teaching) - I prolly forgot more than you'll ever know
..
BTW - No Charge 4 that one .
As for the rest of your comment (teaching) - I prolly forgot more than you'll ever know
..BTW - No Charge 4 that one .

Oh by the way jbrew, it is spelled "Probably" not Prolly, have a few more "brews",
then learn how to spell. Most likely one of the things you forgot.
Yeaaaa.. I don't know how to spell....
- you really think that?
You prolly do.. You really got me on that one - congrats
I feel so freakin "Poned" .. Huh , feels kinduh tingly
- you really think that?You prolly do.. You really got me on that one - congrats
I feel so freakin "Poned" .. Huh , feels kinduh tingly
Last edited by jbrew; Oct 30, 2007 at 01:58 PM.


