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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 02:20 PM
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I bought a 2007 f150 a few weekes ago. The dealer made it quite clear to me that only motorcraft oil filters be used. They said if any aftermarket filters like fram were used and something went wrong with the engine that ford would not warranty the truck. I also heard that this trucks are picky about oil filters and that these trucks have had problems when aftermarket filters are installed. The truck has a 4.6 in it.

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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 02:29 PM
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They cannot deny warranty work because of an aftermarket oil filter. Magnusson-Moss Warranty Act has you covered even for using Fram, a Low quality oil filter. The motorcraft oil filter is quality oil filter that sell for around $3.50 at your local Wmart. But if you prefer to use Fram, You will not have any warranty problems if something goes wrong.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by gunner07
I bought a 2007 f150 a few weekes ago. The dealer made it quite clear to me that only motorcraft oil filters be used. They said if any aftermarket filters like fram were used and something went wrong with the engine that ford would not warranty the truck. I also heard that this trucks are picky about oil filters and that these trucks have had problems when aftermarket filters are installed. The truck has a 4.6 in it.

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Stay away from Fram. They have lousy anti drainback valves, causing noisy cold start ups, especially on the 3v engines. There are others that are good, at least no complaints in here. Wix, Purolater and some others. In general I use the MC, simply because it works, I don't have noisy start ups and I can get it cheap at Wally's world.

Do a search here and in the 04 up forum. You will find more than one thread due to noisy start ups and find they were using Frams.
 

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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by gunner07
I bought a 2007 f150 a few weekes ago. The dealer made it quite clear to me that only motorcraft oil filters be used. They said if any aftermarket filters like fram were used and something went wrong with the engine that ford would not warranty the truck. I also heard that this trucks are picky about oil filters and that these trucks have had problems when aftermarket filters are installed. The truck has a 4.6 in it.

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When I got my K&N air filter for my car it said that they could not void the warrentee unless the dealer provides replacement filters free of charge. However the dealer can still make it rough on you if something did happen, I do run Motorcraft oil filters in both my trucks. They are a good filter and I like the shape they stamp on the end, they seem to be easier to get a grip on than most filters out there. They less than 5 bucks a pop at Wal-Mart.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 02:45 PM
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I have used m/c filters as long as I've been at a dealer. Some of the horror stories I've heard about Fram and the lousy anti-drian valves and the filter coming apart were more than enough to make me a believer for life. Even when I didnt work at a dealer I continued to use m/c filters, except my Mustang which has a K&N air filter.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 03:15 PM
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I think that little valves gonna get me another 150k out of my 5.4.

BTW - Funny how that stuff works. I Amsoiled everything in my truck last winter except the crankcase . All I noticed back then is that it drove smoother and the trans ran cooler.
My trans use to slip pretty bad @ the light and the rear end howled like a dog barking at the moon.

So it's been 6 months or so - Now I can't get the trans to slip if I wanted it to and today I was trying to hear the rear end howling..

Nope! Nothing but motor and tires on the pavement.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by gunner07
I bought a 2007 f150 a few weekes ago. The dealer made it quite clear to me that only motorcraft oil filters be used. They said if any aftermarket filters like fram were used and something went wrong with the engine that ford would not warranty the truck.
Then by law they would have to provide them for you free of charge.
As stated above you are protected by the Magnusson-Moss Warranty Act.

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I also heard that this trucks are picky about oil filters and that these trucks have had problems when aftermarket filters are installed. The truck has a 4.6 in it.

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The Motorcraft filters are very good so I wouldn't worry about it.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 07:52 PM
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Your dealer's an idiot if you haven't figured that out from previous post here so far. Don't use Fram and just go with what ever brand you're loyal to. I love Mobil 1 filters. You can see/feel the quality of construction in them.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2007 | 10:05 AM
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It's been said before, on this site and many other auto sites, and BITOG....

I think many of us put too much into oil filters, including myself.

I don't care, I guess I'm brainwashed, but I will pay more money for what seems to be a superior filter. Cheap insurance as I see it.

I have used, and will continue to use MC, Amsoil, and Mobil 1 filters, and now and then, the Napa gold. I would certainly use a Wix.

All are readily available.

Good filtration is obviously a factor in oil longevity. I can use one Amsoil filter with confidence to 12K miles. Or I can use a MC filter every 4-5K....they are substantially cheaper, and there's certainly nothing wrong with changing the oil filter often and topping off the motor oil.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2007 | 10:16 AM
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The Napa Gold is a Wix.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2007 | 10:36 AM
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does anyone know who makes pennzoil filters? couple shops in town really push'em. (i figure they must be pretty cheap) thanks, buck
 
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Old Aug 10, 2007 | 10:56 AM
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The Napa Gold is a Wix.
I know, that is why I'd use it.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2007 | 02:13 PM
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Off the top of my head, I think I've heard that Pennzoil filters are junk.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2007 | 02:22 PM
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Off the top of my head, I think I've heard that Pennzoil filters are junk.
same here, i avoid um but was just curious about them. like i said earlier they are all over the place around here.
 
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Old Aug 11, 2007 | 05:13 PM
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I would avoid any oil filter that does not have a silicone antidrain back valve.
The old black nitrile rubber valve will not hold up much beyond 3000 miles because the nitrile does not have the high temperature heat resistance that silicone rubber does.

If the orange Fram had the silicone antidrain back valve I would probably use it because it typically has a lower filtering media area. How is that an advantage? Less pressure drop and more oil flow. The disadvantage of low filtering media area is that the filter can not hold as much trapped particles. Since I change my oil a relatively low miles I do not work about plugged filters.
 
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