ANybody have any experience w this product? http://www.prostartechnologies.com/

 

i put one on my truck. i have a pic of it installed in my gallery. I can't really tell if it's giving my more power and HP's because I installed it with my superchip, intake, magnaflow and e3 spark plugs all at one time. But it was easy to install and I like to think it's cutting my emissions down.

 

It sounds interesting, but I don't think I'd try it unless it was cheap. The octane rating in gasoline is basically a measure of how smoothly a fuel burns as compared to a 100% mixture of isooctane, a branched form of octane. Gas rated at 93 octane burns as smoothly as a 93% mix of isooctane. Anything over 100 octane contains other fuels that burn smoother than isooctane. For instance, benzene has an octane rating of something like 120. At oil refineries, long straight-chain (8-10) hydrocarbons are cracked into shorter (4-5) chains, then reassembled into more branched structures that burn better than the straight-chain molecules. The point of that book is that the product claims to use that same cracking type process, but it occurs right before combustion, so it seems like the gas would be crappier than it started as. Then again, I'm no expert. Go figure.

 

Look at the [CARB Exrcutive Order D-352] by search.
There are three pages of document accepting this device as exempt in CA but for use on 93 and older cars.
They tell you they have no proof it works either way and only accepted it as not increasing emmissions by it's presence.
IMO getting CARB approval for somthing that does not work is slick advertising.
The company hopes no one will look at this but take it as an endorsment support just by referenceing to the the CARB D-352 #.
An FYI: Any aftermatket part that has a CARB # can be looked up to see all the infor and legal use of said devicees.

 

Thanks man It smelled of scam but wanted some others thoughts and inputs.

 

CARB approval - that in itself is a scam. All you need for CARB approval is proof that it does not increase emissions. All these types of products are scams.

 

I'm not sure what you mean.
Are you saying that CARB approval is a scam in it'selF as a legal function in the state of CA.?
If that is the case you don't know much about what and why it exists.
I can assure you that if you lived in CA you would not pass a visual inpection on an aftermarket part that has no CARB # of record and attached.
These Carb # parts are accepted in nearly all other states for use, same as in CA. and used as a standard, by courtesy due to the leading nature of CA air quality efforts..
Any vehichle that has been altered from factory with aftermarket parts has to have this type authorization unless in an area or state that has no inspection, then it doesn't matter.
Go to the website and look around, become familuar with what it's all about.
I have a Kenne Bell blower setup on my car with a CARB # of D-271-6.
Even here in Pa. that makes it legal to pass inspection, otherwise I could not legeally run it.
That surely is not a scam in the usual sense of what a scam is.
If I misunderstand you then I stand corrected.

 

All those "fuel catalyst" doohickeys are always bogus. They come in all forms, from special "super magnets" you clamp around the fuel line, to goofy pills you drop in the tank, to thousand dollar "water injection" setups. One of my buddies tried one of those drop-in pills in his sled and within a few hours the RAVE valves were all gummed up and there was a noticable drop in performance. The manufactures seem to forget that all cars now have computerized ECU's that want to keep the motor running a certian way, and will automatically compensate for the change in fuel. This change from the optimal setting typically causes a performance loss, not gain.

Popular Mechanics did a special testing all of these gimmicks a while ago. All but one decreased both HP and torque, and one had no effect whatsoever. One of them gained a very nominal increase in mileage, but it was most likely an error since it was so small (like .05 MPG) difference.

 

You being from PA makes you an expert on what happens in CA and working with CARB? Yeah, OK. And, yes, I was raised in CA and had to deal with the beaurocratic BS surrounding their smog check program, and I have worked for an organization that produced aftermarket parts, and we did have to deal with the CARB approval process. I can say, from experience, that CARB is more interested in making $$ than they are in doing anything for the envorinment.

Anyway, you totally misread my intent with that post. But I did get a giggle out of the response.

 

Have a nice day.
You sound like you need one once in a while with things seeming to be all so bad, along with all that experience.

 

Thank you for the kind thoughts. Things are actually very good.

Dang. Just noticed that I misspelled "environment" in my last post.