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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 08:28 PM
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What all would I need to swap a 2005 mustang v8 into a 1997 v6 f150. I know I would need:
Custom engine mounts
engine
new transmission
driveshaft
computer

What else would I need to make this work.
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Old Jul 17, 2006 | 09:51 PM
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You will need to think about killing the low end on your truck. It will be a dog off the line. Maybe that's what you planned, but I just thought I would say that in case you didn't.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by a33bigpapa
What all would I need to swap a 2005 mustang v8 into a 1997 v6 f150. I know I would need:
Custom engine mounts
engine
new transmission
driveshaft
computer

What else would I need to make this work.
All help is greatly appreciated.
Engine mounts would be the same
Your existing transmission would bolt up
driveshaft would be the same
computer would be a nightmare

the 2005 and up mustang 4.6L 3valve top end is radically different from a 2 valve 4.6L. Your computer could not run the variable valve timing. Thats a big part of what makes the 3 valve engines have such higher power outputs. the 05 mustang computer is also incapable of running the 4r70w transmission that is in your truck. The 05 mustang comes with a 5 speed manual or a 5 speed automatic, which by the way that 5 speed auto from what i understand is complete junk. then get into the nightmare of wiring. you could not use the harness from either vehicle. You would have to have an indepth knowledge of both wireing harneses and make your own using what you need from both harnesses. Not to mention there is no truck manifold for the 4.6L 3valve. All in all it's not worth the effort. For alot less money you could build on kick a$$ 2v engine and have plenty money left over for a blower.
 

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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by The Flow-Master
You will need to think about killing the low end on your truck. It will be a dog off the line. Maybe that's what you planned, but I just thought I would say that in case you didn't.
Ummm granted I've already said it wouldn't be worth all the work involved but are you crazy. An 05 4.6L 3vavle 4.6L Produces 300HP and 320Lb ft of torque vs the piece of crap NPI 4.6L turd 2v 4.6L that only produces 220hp and 265lb feet of torque. I think he would be fine in the low end torque department
 
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 03:21 AM
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u would need custom engine mounts, the mustang blocks, headers, computer, heads, wiring harness, and all the wiring, and some other stuff, trannny
 
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 05:56 AM
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I have an '05 Mustang GT with the V8. Kick butt engine. I was recently in the dealership and happened to pick up a new vehicle brochure for the '07 F-150. Now, I only casually glanced through it, but I believe the '07 will be available with the 3-valve variable timing engine. Is that right?
 
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 11:04 AM
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u would need custom engine mounts, the mustang blocks, headers, computer, heads, wiring harness, and all the wiring, and some other stuff, trannny
No you would not need custom engine mounts. It's the same block. Just use F150 engine mounts
 
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 11:07 AM
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I have an '05 Mustang GT with the V8. Kick butt engine. I was recently in the dealership and happened to pick up a new vehicle brochure for the '07 F-150. Now, I only casually glanced through it, but I believe the '07 will be available with the 3-valve variable timing engine. Is that right?
I don't know if it's true yet or not but it would make sense. Ford has been phasing out the 2 valve engines
 
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 11:14 AM
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Hi.

Where have you guys been?

The 5.4's in the F150 have all been 3V VCT engines since 2004
 
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 11:31 AM
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Hi.

Where have you guys been?

The 5.4's in the F150 have all been 3V VCT engines since 2004
True. The 04+ 5.4L 3valve truck harness will more than likely run the 4.6L 3 vavle engine. You will still have manifold issues cause there is no truck manifold available. The mustangs manifold has the throttlebody way in the front of the engine for one. You'd still have serious wiring issues to make it all work in a 97 f150, which is what he wants to put this in. The 05+ Explorers also use the 4.6L 3valve. I don't know what kind of intake manifold they use or what transmission, you would still have the same issues making everything work.. Either way, with the money and time it would take you could built a Kick a$$ 2valve engine, with a blower that would walk the dog on those 3valves
 
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 08:43 PM
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Thanks for all the info on the subject. I was asking because I could get that engine cheap. But it seems that the wiring would be hell. I could also get a 4.6L f150 engine out of an 02 or 03 f150 would that be a better choice? Do those engines come with the P.I. heads and intake. And how about horsepower and torque #'s if you please.

Again, all help is greatly appreciated.
 
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Old Jul 18, 2006 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by a33bigpapa
Thanks for all the info on the subject. I was asking because I could get that engine cheap. But it seems that the wiring would be hell. I could also get a 4.6L f150 engine out of an 02 or 03 f150 would that be a better choice? Do those engines come with the P.I. heads and intake. And how about horsepower and torque #'s if you please.

Again, all help is greatly appreciated.
2001 and up 4.6L Stock 231HP and 293 ft lb of torque. You can always build yourself a 5.4L 2valve as well. Your 4.6L computer will run it fine with a tune seen as how essentialy they are the same engine, just one has more displacement. Stay away from windsor heads though. whatever you build make sure you build it with romeo heads. The windsor heads, which is what all 5.4L 2v's have from the factory
 
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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 01:55 AM
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If you are going to swap to a V8 by far the best bang for the buck will be the 5.4. You will need a tranny as the V6 tranny will not bolt up. You will need the PCM and complete harness to make things work. Find a 99+ 5.4 so you get the benifit of the Pi heads. if you decide to go through with it let me know and I can suggest what will be needed.

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Old Jul 19, 2006 | 10:13 PM
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another problem you may incounter is that engine swaps..other than stock may be a problem getting a state inspection sticker...

research the laws before you proceed

...zap!
 
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Old Jul 20, 2006 | 03:14 AM
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after all is said and done it would not be quick and easy or even cheap for that matter.

i saw a '98 f150 flareside on ebay a few months ago with one of these in it
http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts...tKeyField=9287

all it needs is 12v, fuel line and a few other basic parts but nothing major. most of the parts you might need to add to get this to work in your truck would be pretty cheap at an auto wrecker.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1998-...QQcmdZViewItem
 

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