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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 02:48 PM
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Do you have 12 volts at the coil then?
yes I do have 12v at the coil. Check my original message.
 
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by mrainey889
Hmm...have you thought about swapping out the ECU/ECM? A 1993 Ford would have considerable computer controls/sensors. I would assume spark control/timing would be one of those items...

If you do determine the ECU is the problem, I found a website:
www.ecudirect.com

They appeared to have your ECU for $250 w/ a $75 core charge. I am in no way meaning to promote that website, it is simply one of many that came up when I did a google search. What really struck me as odd was that Autozone's website did not appear to carry an ECU for your truck, neither did JC Whitney...



Just my two cents,
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ecu on 93 f150 w5.8L engine is called PCM THANXXX
 
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by dwsf150
When you said you replaced the dist, was it new and complete with the pick-up coil? Try unplugging the spout wire. If you have a noid light check to see if injectors are pulsing, if not the PCM may not be powered up or dead in the water. In the under hood fuse box swap the PCM relay with another to see if it starts.
The distributor is brand new and complete checked the relay and it seems to have power going in and out
 
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by dwsf150
When you said you replaced the dist, was it new and complete with the pick-up coil? Try unplugging the spout wire. If you have a noid light check to see if injectors are pulsing, if not the PCM may not be powered up or dead in the water. In the under hood fuse box swap the PCM relay with another to see if it starts.
The distributor is brand new and complete checked the relay and it seems to have power going in and out i was thinking that maybe the PCM is fried i am going to try and get it out this evening and look at it
 
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by GIJoeCam
Start with the basics. Pop the distributor cap and make sure the rotor turn when you crank the engine. We've already determined that there is no spark, but it can be caused by something as simple as a bad coil wire. Check for continuity through it. If the ECU isn't calling for a spark, the power to the coil does not get interrupted, which is what causes the spark.

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the rotor is turning when i crank the engine. there are 12 v TO and FROM the coil NOW what?????
 
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by rednckbill
the rotor is turning when i crank the engine. there are 12 v TO and FROM the coil NOW what?????
I was talking about the coil wire that runs from the coil to the center post on the distributor. You need to have continuity through it, otherwise the spark can't get from the coil to the distributor cap.

It'll be the ignition module/PCM/ECU whatever you want to call it, most likely. Either it's dead, or it lost power. Are all your fuses good?

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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by GIJoeCam
I was talking about the coil wire that runs from the coil to the center post on the distributor. You need to have continuity through it, otherwise the spark can't get from the coil to the distributor cap.

It'll be the ignition module/PCM/ECU whatever you want to call it, most likely. Either it's dead, or it lost power. Are all your fuses good?

-Joe
all fuses are good I just put on a new ignition module It is what this model uses instead of duraspark The PCM is what the ECU is called in this model
 
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 05:49 PM
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Unless you want to waste more time, money, and bandwidth, go back to my last post and read it carefully.

If you have it in your head that it's the computer without doing any testing to show it's at fault, well, heck, it's your time and money....replace it if you want to...

Your choice...

Steve
 
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Old Apr 20, 2006 | 07:12 PM
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Here is a link to a duraspark system. Some of the old distributors used points. The coil should fire every time the stator signals the ignition module.

You should be able to remove the coil wire from the distributor cap and have someone turn the engine over. Hold the end of the coil wire near the engine and you should hear or see spark. If you don't get spark then the coil wire is probably bad (or possibly the coil). If you get spark from the coil wire then the problem is from the distributor cap to the plugs. Most distributors must have the wires in the correct sequence for the engines firing order and can be rotated to adjust timing.


http://users3.ev1.net/~bmarr/duraspa...on_upgrade.htm
 
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Old Apr 21, 2006 | 10:32 AM
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pulled computer out last pm and opened it up . it is fried . am now checking the wiring harness for a short somewhere. this could fry the computer ,right? thanks guys.
 

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