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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 12:46 PM
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Who`s going to bring down the prices? I like my truck, but I need 80 galons to drive every month. $300 dollars
 
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 01:25 PM
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OPEC and the oil companies need to have someone unscrew their heads and crap down their throats.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by guzman_marcos
Who`s going to bring down the prices? I like my truck, but I need 80 galons to drive every month. $300 dollars

Hey man, it doesn't end there, you also ave to heat your house. And electricity keeps going up too!

I'm like you, but I need about $400 a month for my gas right now. I just put 200 gallons of fuel in my barrel for about $450, and my propane tank is getting down there now too! I'll probably need another 200 gallons before this season is over.

You wanna know what might help a little here at home? Open ANWR! Hopefully one day, the much talked about gas pipeline will be built too. The all Alaska route! There's lot's of nat. gas up here just waiting to be pumped by the oil company's, who just sit on it and keep prices high. It's far more profittable to them right now not to pump it out. I think they will get a bit of an eye opener here soon when hopefully we start taxing them. But, this bonehead governer Merkowski is in bed with the oil companys and doesn't seem to give a crap about our state. Only his own personal interests. It's really quite disgusting how this man has gone about his politics.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by guzman_marcos
Who`s going to bring down the prices? I like my truck, but I need 80 galons to drive every month. $300 dollars
I would love to join in on this, but I can't. I just bought my truck last month and I knew exactly what I was getting into when I did. I have definetly been more effecient in my driving and I prioritize my weekend duty's. Work is my big gas burner, that's for sure. Hopefully something positive will happen in the future, until then, let's just keep our heads up and hope for the best.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 05:08 PM
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THE REASON FOR HIGH GAS PRICES

is not OPEC or expensive oil or whatever but it's the EPA because it requires 21 different varieties of gas for the whole country and so oil refineries cannot streamline their process and interchange everything so instead they need to have 21 different methods for refining this **** and this raises the prices.

The EPA, not OPEC, not arabs, not iraq, nothing else. EPA.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 05:29 PM
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THE REASON FOR HIGH GAS PRICES

is not OPEC or expensive oil or whatever but it's the EPA because it requires 21 different varieties of gas for the whole country and so oil refineries cannot streamline their process and interchange everything so instead they need to have 21 different methods for refining this **** and this raises the prices.

The EPA, not OPEC, not arabs, not iraq, nothing else. EPA.

The EPA is trying to help you breath better.

I don't know how long the refineries have been making 21 different varieties, but I know my state has been getting different varieties long before gas prices doubled!


OPEN ANWR
 
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 05:40 PM
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Yet Exxon made record profits last year (not due to an increased demand... just increased price)
 
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 07:17 PM
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IMHO, while all of the above certainly add to the cost (epa, delivery, etc), it's really about "profits/what the market will bare" not supply/demand (that may be true when the supply is truly low like after the hurricane) remember when gas hit 3 bucks a gallon how the public suddenly started to scream enough? the auto manufacturers had a new market for their hybreds and big oil saw the possibilities of new taxes, next thing you know prices fell 25-30% within a week!. At this time we're all the oil companies byotches because there's no alternative fuel source for our trucks (there is some for our homes if you don't mind the expense of going off grid)
 
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 07:57 PM
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The way I hear it, it's increased demand from India and China that's putting so much strain on supply, along with the middle east insecurity that causes oil to trade even higher. The best part? We have ourselves partly to blame for fueling the Chinese and Indian economies with so many jobs.
 
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 09:16 PM
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wern't we told this past summer by our government high gas prices were caused by all the Hurricanes???????? I remember our government telling us that!

Now there saying it's because of the way the winter started out here, colder then normal!?? WTF!?

My electric bill now is almost as high as my heating bill a month now! we are being taken advantage of BIG time.

The rich keeps on getting richer (thanks Bush)
 
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Old Jan 25, 2006 | 09:59 PM
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FYI, the amount of taxes you pay on fuel surpasses the amount of profit the oil compnay makes by about 10x.

To get their measly 3.5+- cents a gallon profit, the oil company finds the oil, secures the rights to it, extracts it from the ground, refines it, and delivers it to your neigborhood. What exactly does the government do to earn their 35 cents+- a gallon?
 
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 08:34 AM
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wern't we told this past summer by our government high gas prices were caused by all the Hurricanes???????? I remember our government telling us that!
Uh, NO! The first catastophic hurricane hit around Labor day. Hardly "summer" except by the calender.


Yet Exxon made record profits last year...
While the profit posted by Exxon-Mobil was a record in terms of dollars, it was less than an 11% gross margin on revenues of $317B. The huge number is to to the SIZE of the newly combined company and the scale of their operation. As a comparison, Microsoft grossed $40B with a gross margin of almost 32%. Yet no one screams about that level of profitability or threatens them with a "windfall" tax.

The international oil market is complex. Geo-political instability, natural disaster, increased demand from developing economies, FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, and Doubt), and governmental policies of many types all contribute to the final consumer price of energy.

If you want Big Daddy to take care of you and supply you with cheap fuel, move to Venezuela and live under Chavez. You can take up residence with the likes of Harry Belafonte, Cindy Sheehan, and others of their political ilk and live in a socialist worker's paradise that was blessed by geology with abundant petroleum. Won't have to worry about any of that silly capitalist stuff like free markets. Or personal freedoms, either, for that matter. You'll be free to say whatever you feel, as long as it agrees with the governments' views.

Quit whining. Do your best to adapt your lifestyle to the new reality of more expensive energy. Educate yourself on how things work. Ignore the rhetoric of those with a vested interest in keeping you ignorant.

Steve
 
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 10:03 AM
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Cost

cost does not make sense: it costs just 10 dollars to produce one barrel of 55 gallons. why then sell it for 67 dollars?


Originally Posted by country_duck
Yet Exxon made record profits last year (not due to an increased demand... just increased price)
 
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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by projectSHO89
Uh, NO! The first catastophic hurricane hit around Labor day. Hardly "summer" except by the calender.




While the profit posted by Exxon-Mobil was a record in terms of dollars, it was less than an 11% gross margin on revenues of $317B. The huge number is to to the SIZE of the newly combined company and the scale of their operation. As a comparison, Microsoft grossed $40B with a gross margin of almost 32%. Yet no one screams about that level of profitability or threatens them with a "windfall" tax.

The differance between Microsoft and Exxon is that Exxon fills a "need" and Microsoft fills a "want". I can download Linux for free if I choose but there is no cheep alternative to fuel for my truck. The vast majority of the population could not stop buying gas for any length of time or society would collapse, this is why everyone screems.

Profit is what drives the world. I have no problem with that. However I do have a problem with the amount of profits being made by these middle-eastern countries. For centuries they have fought each other with sticks and rocks, as they had very little other resources and the rest of the world was virtually unaffected. Now with the profits of thier oil they can afford the latest technology in weapons, but lack the maturity and foresight to make peacefull use of that type of money. In a way we are funding the terrorists. just my $.02
 

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Old Jan 26, 2006 | 03:20 PM
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Well, maybe it's time we all went to nat. gas. There's a crap load of it up here. They say that the oil fields up here are natural gas fields, with a little bit of oil in them. Let's get this ALL-ALASKA gas pipeline built and get some nat. gas to the lower 48! It's our (alaska's) gas, not the oil company's. Yet they sit on it because they lease the land it's under. This is what I'm talking about my friends, let's get independant of foriegn oil and gas! Hopefully or current governer will not be returning because he's negotiating for himself, not alaska, not you guys in the lower 48 either. He's in bed with VECO, a Canadian company BTW, and is trying to get the pipeline to go through Canada so they can take away the profits. It's a mess, really.
 
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