I have a 99 4x 5.4L F150. About two weeks ago I hydraulic locked the motor when a water fitting on my T.B. went bad. I have since changed head gaskets, intake gaskets, T.B., EGR, and IAC gaskets. After the last week and a half of driving, the motor began to develope and small rod knock. This noise is getting worse, but still have not noticed any oil pressure problems, or vibrations. I have checked all the plugs, and everything looks normal. I tow a trailer everyday, I own a Landscaping company. I have been looking to do a v-10 swap. I am not concerned with fuel milage!!!!! Does anyone know of anyone that has done this, or any good links. I think it would be great for towing, and I like the smaller package of the F150 as opposed to a super duty. Please let me know what you have got........Oh yeah, I can buy a 2002 V-10 with 33,000 for $1,800 bucks. Please give me some feedback, I think this will be fun.......

 

ford-trucks.com has a engine swap forum.

 

I got about 5 hours sleep last night so bare with me.
I looked at this swap last year. I didn't do it because the engine deal fell through. You will have to switch to electric fans to make room. The engine will bolt in with a few minor mods.

Yo will need the EVTM manuals from both your truck and the donor engine vehicle. You will need the V10 PCM just to drive the extra cylinders. Wait it gets better. The connectors at the PCM are different. So you will need that harness too. Now this is where it gets tricky. The PCM connects to the Engine harness, transmission harness and the Bulkhead connectors and the Battery Junction box. The bulkhead connectors supply power for the cab circuits and communication lines from the GEM, RAPS etc to the PCM.

So you now have the PCM connected to the V10 and the transmission. Oops! The V10 uses a 4R100 transmission and the odds are your truck has the 4R100. You will need to open up the harness and check the connector for the 4R70W. I didn’t do much research on this because I have a manual transmission but I do know that the connectors are different.

The next part will give you nightmares. The bulkhead connectors are different. What I planned on doing was to use the F-150 bulkhead connectors and repin the connector at the PCM harness to match its circuits to the F-150 circuits. On the firewall there is a mount that holds the connectors for the engine harness, transmission and engine compartment to bulkhead and Battery Junction Box. They all join here and go to the PCM via a short harness. I will post more as soon as more blood gets to my brain.

JMC

 

Incredible info, I really appreciate it... So, will I have to change the tranny to the 4r100? If so, will the transfer case from the 4r70w bolt to the 4r100? I can get everything I need from this same truck. My buddies dad owns the bone yard so I dont think that getting any parts will be too much of a problem. Any more info will be greatly appreciated......I would love to do this instead of spending the money on the 5.4L and not getting the same results. Thanks again in advance....

Midnight99

 

The T-case used in the F-150 ( The Borg-Warner 44-06) is smaller than the Superduty (New Venture ) one. The adapter on the end of the 4R100 will be different so your old T-case will not bolt up. There are some Navigators and Expeditions and even some F-150 that had the 4R100 from the factory with the BW 44-06 so you could adapt it to fit. By far the easiest thing to do is to use your 4R70W with the existing BW 44-06. Otherwise you will have to shorten the drive shaft when using the longer New Venture T-case. As the V10 is a Titon it will bolt right up to your old tranny.

JMC

 

Awesome, that was the answer I was hoping to get. If I get all the electrical from the donor truck is everything else just "plug & play"? I really dont like electrical work, I will do it if needed but would rather not. I guess the motor and computer would work fine for the motor, but how different is the chassis harness? I really appreciate all the help. Hopefully once I have a little more research time this week, I may start this in a week or two. Thanks again......

Midnight99

 

JMC,I'd like to hear from you on this. I'm guessing the other fellow didn't build the f-150 with the V-10. I have a line on a engine and wiring harness. I just need to know what specifically I need. I think I have the 4r70w tranny. If it'll bolt up to the V-10 then it should make things easier.

 

still, you have to make sure the PATS does not cause a problem. I have been in contact with my ford dealer to find out if a 97 or 98 e350 did or did not have pats, as that is the ecm i have been specing out for pinouts.The only clearance issue i have found is the idler arm on the right side may need a small trim job to clear the a/c but not much if any at all. i have read that the m/m will need to be "adjusted" a little. e-fans are a must unless you move the a/c condenser into the grill and then shove the radiator out there with it. the overall length difference is 4". I am still gathering parts for my swap.

 

What is PATS? All of a sudden I feel like I want to continue with this swap. Our weather doesn't get that hot hear so I could do with out the A.C.... Would give the engine some more power as well. I'd just run Electric fans. Do you think the same rad could be used? And what about using the stock trany and transfer case? I know that V10 has over 400 ft lbs of tourque but don't you get close to those numbers if you bolt on a super charger? And It could always be built stronger...

 

hey all

 

i think the rad would work and i dont think the a/c is a big problem. you will eventually have to rebuild the tranny, but a 4r100 would be easier as that is what the computr is designed to operate. you can use the 4r70w but you have to rewire part of the harness

 

i forgot to add... pats is passive antitheft system. i am working on a solution with the correct model year computer out of a van that had no pats...stay tuned