Motorcraft oil is also made by Ashland Oil (Valvoline). Ford contracts for a certain amount of oil over a certain period of time and goes with the lowest price bidder. Conoco and Ashland are their largest providers. The Syn blend 5W-20 is most likely identical to Valvoline's Syn blend. It is nothing more than lowest price wins.

 

Conoco produces Motorcraft oil, this is a great oil, check out the specs on the Conoco Hydroclear.

It too is a group II+ based oil.

http://lubes.conoco.com/news/pdf/01_spring.pdf#5W20

http://lubes.conoco.com/products/allseason.asp

 

At this time, Conoco is the sole supplier of Motorcraft oils. Ashland may have been involved in the past, but that is not the case today.

 

Wow, I actually stated that hydroclear is a Shell product. Must have been brain lock, obviously, it is a Conoco product. I think I need a vacation.

 

Don't we all!

 

I am going to try this. Auto-rx, then Chevron Supreme. I looked in the yellow pages today and called an oil / petrolium distributer. I was told they had 15 cases of Chevron Supreme 10w30 sitting in the warehouse. That they would deliver to my door 1 case, or all 15 if I wanted, for $12.20 per case, no delivery charge. I was told they don't sell to any retail around here, (the Chevron product.) They sell directly to construction companies etc. Tried to sell me a 100 gallon drum of castrol for $43.00. I almost bit. I told her to send me 2 cases of Chevron Supeme 10w30, 2 cases of 5w30.

I keep hearing about Shaeffers (sp) additives. I think on the oil guy site? While I was on hold, the little ad that talks while on hold said they distributed that too. Any recommendations on that?

 

Very nice! Just over $1 a quart, delivered no less! Hows that for service!

I'm no good on the Schaeffers stuff, other than to say their mtor oils are very good, although tougher to find.

 

Shoot, you should have gotten a case of that instead, it's supposed to be some pretty good stuff. They use a heavy dose of Moly to prevent wear!! They have a syn blend that is also really good. Actually it's the only blend that I would recommend. Since most of the other blends contain less than 10% synthetics.

Also, If I were you I'd run that chevron supreme with the Auto-RX. I would use the double dose method. Put 1 bottle in with a filter change, then after 500 miles change the filter and put another bottle in run it up to 1000-1500 dump it all, and will be clean as a whistle. Then if you continue to run the dino stuff, I would run the recommended maintenance dose and you'll never have a problem.

Of coarse if it were me, after the Auto-rx I'd run a synthetic from then on.

 

I think they do sell Shaeffer oil too, not only additives. I found their web site last night (the distributor's) they seem to be a distributor of Shell/Texaco/Chevron. They push Baldwin filters too. Which I had never heard of until I looked at the web site. I went to the oil guy site and put Baldwin in the search block. Seems they are pretty highly regarded, from what their members were saying, Baldwin makes the Amsoil filter. I am going to check on those today, may try a couple. For the F150, 4.6 they give a filter number and say it has an anti drainback valve and an 8psi by pass valve. You have a point about the synthetic, I am calling this morning and getting prices, filters etc. May end up with something like Scaeffers. I will get detailed info from them.

About $1.00 a quart is nice. However, what blew me away was the .43 cents a gallon for the Castrol GTX (in the handy 100 gallon container.) That makes that about .11 cents per quart. My wife told me I should have bought that. I told her I would have been giving away free oil just to get rid of it. I don't think she realizes how much 100 gallons of oil is. At 6 quarts per change, that is only 66 oil changes, or 25 years if you change every 3 mos. The lady at the distributor told me that some of their construction clients use 100 gallons every few weeks. Wow.

 

Baldwin makes excellent filters. They are some of the best for heavy duty trucking. I do believe that they make filters for our F150's as well. Baldwin,Hastings,Amsoil filters are all made at the same place.

Good luck and let us know how well they do.

Let me know if you need any oil analysis! Or your can ask that distributor what they charge for analysis. I had a client that would get them from his distributor for like $9. Whereas Mine would cost $18.95.

 

WOW!!! That Shaeffers oil is expensive!! $3.40 per quart. It won't be in my truck. Now, the Baldwin filters I can live with. $3.86 for the oil filter, $10.08 for the air filter.

So I think it will be, auto-rx for 500 miles, drain, auto-rx for 1000 miles, drain. Use Chevron Supreme dino oil with Baldwin filters. That should pretty much cover me at a pretty decent price, agreed?

I am still trying to figue out why a 12 quart case of Shaeffers, is only $3.00 cheaper than a 100 gallon drum of Castrol GTX. I don't care how good it is supposed to be, it can't be THAT much better..... can it?

 

Schaeffers is good stuff, and is priced accordingly! If you bought that in bulk too, it would cost much less a quart, but would still be 2-3 times the cost of the Castrol becuase of the feedstocks and additives. As far as it being that much more than the Castrol GTX, remember that puppy is in a bulk 100 gallon container versus being split into quart containers, blah, blah blah... In a quart container, I gurantee the Castrol GTX doesn't go for 43 cents a quart!

 

That is 43 cents a gallon. The quart price is 11 cents. Goes to show how much packaging and advertising must be. They can sell it for 11 cents a gallon, must cost them 2 to 3 cents. Put it in a plastic jug, slap a label on it and charge $1.75 a quart. Those jugs must be expensive....eh?

 

Obviously somebody at the distributorship made an error when quoting you the price of the Castrol. It also seems unrealistic for a Chevron distributor to sell a case of Chevron Supreme for $12.20 per case. My cost, as a Chevron distributor is $12.24 per case. Please don't take this post as a flame, but the gal must of made a huge error. Cost on base oil (this is what is used before the additives are put in) is priced at around $1.60/gallon to $1.90/gallon and we sell about 10 truck and trailer loads (8,000 gallons) a month during the busy season, so there is no way that Castrol cheaper than that as a finished oil.

I'm curious what area you live in and what distributor you are dealing with. Oh, by the way, Chevron is an excellent motor oil.

 

Well, maybe she did screw the Castrol quote up. I didn't question it at the time as I wasn't interested in a 100 gallon vat of oil at any price really. As far as the Chevron price, I can't say that it was misquoted. I called back once this morning to ask the Shaeffer prices and the Baldwin filter prices. I talked to girl number two about the oil and a guy about the filters. I called back this afternoon to order. I talked to lady number three. I ordered one case of Chevron Supreme 10w30, one case Chevron Supreme 5w30, one Baldwin oil filter, one Baldwin air filter. She asked me if I was told the prices, I told her yes. She said "it will be there Thursday, your total is $41.16." I didn't ask for a breakdown but it is about what I figured based on the prices I was given today and yesterday. Also knowing sales tax here is around 7.5% That makes the oil roughly $12.20 per case. As quoted yesterday. This isn't a flame toward you either but don't you think that after talking to four different people, if a misquote was given, at least one of the four would have caught it? Maybe they just sell that brand at cost since there isn't a big market here for it. Maybe they get a better price than you do, I don't have an answer.

Since you appear to be in the oil business, what do you know about Kost oil and Mag oil? The lady yesterday told me that Kost makes their "house brand" and recommended Mag 30wt for our machinery.