what is REAL towing capacity of F150?

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Old 05-27-2014, 07:06 PM
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what is REAL towing capacity of F150?

I have 2007 F150 V6 w/manual transmission.

I've read the specs & which say I can tow 2500 lbs. ??!!

My old '93 toyota corolla could tow 1500 lbs!

This can't be correct...

I want to haul a 3400 lb travel trailer. Unbelievable I can't with this truck!

Any opinions? Thank you...
 
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Old 05-27-2014, 08:54 PM
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Your weak link, is the Manual Transmission, & then the V-6.
If you look in the Transmission Forum there are several Threads regarding Towing Capacities.

I have the same Drive-Train Combo you have, I didn't purchase mine for towing more then a small trailer, as I knew going in, the V-6 doesn't come close to the old 4.9L Straight 6.
 
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Old 05-27-2014, 09:41 PM
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The 5 speed tranny used in the F-150 wasn't very good and that is your weak link. The auto would be rated for a lot more even with the 4.2L. Having said that I know guys with the 4.2/5 speed combo that have pulled a lot more weight then the sticker shows. I would not recommend overloading it very often though.
 
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Is the 5 speed really that weak?

Or does Ford just not want to replace clutches under warranty when people try backing a 5,000 lb trailer up a steep driveway?

I have no idea, but the V6 F150 manual has always had a far lower tow rating than the automatic.

Here is a chart for the '99 model year that shows ratings for various combos of transmission, motor, gear ratio and cab (heavier cab = lower tow rating). 4.2 Reg cab auto with 3.55 gears rated at 5,800 lbs.

https://www.f150online.com/forums/to...ght-chart.html
 

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Old 05-27-2014, 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by dirt bike dave
Is the 5 speed really that weak?

Or does Ford just not want to replace clutches under warranty when people try backing a 5,000 lb trailer up a steep driveway?
Yes. The M5OD that is used in the F-150 was made by Mazda and also used in the Ranger. It works fine behind a 2.3L 4 pot in a Ranger since the engine doesn't have enough guts to break it. The 4.2L puts out more power and when hooked to a bigger truck it can fail when really pushed. There's a good reason Ford never offered it behind anything bigger than the 4.2L, it just can't handle it. I forget the exact size but the clutch is also pretty small and doesn't have a ton of holding power. The tranny itself is small enough that an average size guy can easily pick it up and carry it around. I had to put one in a Ranger once. We didn't even use a jack to get it in and out. A friend bench pressed it while I lined up the input shaft and bell housing dowels/bolts.
 
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Didn't they put that same trans behind the 4.6 V8??

But, it was still rated pretty low for towing.. I think the V6/Auto was about the same or more, tow rating wise??

To the OP, is that #3400 TT it's DRY weight or it's MAX weight?

I think there is a member, GLC, that has a V6 5 speed? Maybe he'll chime in and give you his take...

Good luck!

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Old 05-27-2014, 11:26 PM
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I think there is a member, GLC, that has a V6 5 speed? Maybe he'll chime in and give you his take.
I've been waiting on him to chime in as well he is the tow rating master.
 
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The M5OD was also offered with the 4.9 I6 and 302 in the pre-97 trucks and the 4.6 from 97-03.

In reality, you can tow up to about 5000# with your truck, but at risk of going through clutches and transmissions. Do not use 5th gear if you are over 2500#, you will kill the tranny. The biggest trailer I've towed with mine is a fully loaded enclosed 5x8 lowboy and I don't think I'd want to try anything bigger.

You may also have legal issues if you are over ratings and something happens.
 
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Old 05-28-2014, 08:14 AM
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thank you everybody

Well, I think I'm going to have to trade up! When I bought this in '08, I didn't buy for towing. But now that I want to... it's disappointing.

The 3400# is dry weight. I want to tow a TT around the USA rather than short bursts. So I've got to get a bigger truck or a smaller TT.

Are there any upgrade packages out there I can buy? Or am I simply stuck?

Pretty dumb of Ford to make such a weak truck, yes?
 
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The V-6 manual trans truck was sold as a price leader commercial work truck, not as a tow vehicle.

If you want to tow a TT around the USA, you need an upgrade (new truck) that has a V-8 or turbocharged V-6 and a real towing package.
 
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Originally Posted by glc
The M5OD was also offered with the 4.9 I6 and 302 in the pre-97 trucks and the 4.6 from 97-03.

In reality, you can tow up to about 5000# with your truck, but at risk of going through clutches and transmissions. Do not use 5th gear if you are over 2500#, you will kill the tranny. The biggest trailer I've towed with mine is a fully loaded enclosed 5x8 lowboy and I don't think I'd want to try anything bigger.

You may also have legal issues if you are over ratings and something happens.
I had a Brand X truck; I towed some sod on a low boy trailer and put 100,000 miles on the clutch in a 30 mile trip. I'm making up the 100K miles, as there isn't a way to figure it out without a tear-down, but it definitely aged it, and accelerated my motivation to get my F-150. I didn't dare use the overdrive and I used 4X4 Low to get moving as a 4X2 1st gear start was torture. It was one of the few times I felt sorry for metal.
 
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Originally Posted by Apittslife
Your weak link, is the Manual Transmission, & then the V-6.
If you look in the Transmission Forum there are several Threads regarding Towing Capacities.

I have the same Drive-Train Combo you have, I didn't purchase mine for towing more then a small trailer, as I knew going in, the V-6 doesn't come close to the old 4.9L Straight 6.
Actually, numberswise, the v6 does basically everything a 300 can and moreso when you need to hit the gas. A friend of mine runs his own shop and was a wrecker driver, too. He'd rather tow with a 302 than the 300 that was in his wrecker. His words.

The problem is that those 04-08 regular cabs are probably as heavy as those "bullnose" supercab trucks and that definitely takes away from towing capacity and 3.55 gears or steeper just adds to the fun.
 



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