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Old Jul 14, 2011 | 09:53 PM
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Swap torque converter from 04 to 01

Just wondering - would a torque converter from a 2004 (new bodystyle) 4.6 swap into a 2001 4.6? The 01 is a 4r70w, the 04 - I'm not sure but its just a base model 49 state model.

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Old Jul 16, 2011 | 02:07 PM
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01 is 4R70, the 04 is 4R75 I believe.
They both take the same size torque converter so it might work.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2011 | 04:03 PM
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The 04 4.6 used a 4R70E except in the Heritage, which carried over the 4R70W. Only the 5.4 used the 4R75E. The 4.6 didn't get the 4R75E till 06.

I do not know if the converters are interchangeable.
 
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Old Jul 16, 2011 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by glc
The 04 4.6 used a 4R70E except in the Heritage, which carried over the 4R70W. Only the 5.4 used the 4R75E. The 4.6 didn't get the 4R75E till 06.

I do not know if the converters are interchangeable.
4r70w was used in 2000 and earlier 4.6L's. 99-00 5.4
4r70e was used in 01-03 5.4 and 01-05 4.6
4r75w 04-05 5.4
4r75e 06-08 5.4 and 4.6

all the 4r7xx converters will swap onto the input shafts but some are different sizes and will need the corresponding flexplate
 
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Old Jul 16, 2011 | 08:06 PM
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My 03 had the 4R70W.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2011 | 02:48 AM
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I don't think Gotts's info is correct.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_AOD_transmission

4R7xx Usage

2002
4R70W used in all applications

2003
4R75W used in Mercury Marauder, V8 Mustang (GT and Mach 1), and 5.4 L trucks (F150, E-series Van, and Expedition)
4R70W used in all other applications (V6 Mustang, 4.6 L Van, 4.2 L F150, 4.6 L F150, and Crown Vic/Grand Marquis/TownCar)

2004
4R75E used in 5.4 L-3v F150
4R70E used in 4.6 L F150 (except F150 Heritage)
4R75W used in Mercury Marauder, Police Interceptor, V8 Mustang (GT and Mach 1), and 5.4 L-2v trucks (E-series Van, and Expedition)
4R70W used in all other applications (V6 Mustang, 4.6 L Van, 4.6 L Expedition, Crown Vic/Grand Marquis/Towncar, and F150 Heritage).

2005
4R75E used in 5.4 L trucks (F150, E-series Van, and Expedition)
4R70W used in F150 Heritage (sold only in Mexico)
4R70E used in all other applications (4.6 L Van, Crown Vic/Grand Marquis/Towncar, and 4.6 L F150 (except F150 Classic (sold only in Mexico))

2006 to 2008
4R70W used in F150 Heritage (sold only in Mexico)
4R75E used in all other applications (Van, Crown Vic/Grand Marquis/TownCar, and F150 (except F150 Heritage (sold only in Mexico))
 
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Old Jul 17, 2011 | 03:19 AM
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Well, I still say my 03 5.4 F-150 -Supercrew 4X4 came stock with a 4R70W in it!
It did not have a 4R75E in it as that info suggest.
 
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Old Jul 17, 2011 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Gotts2BMe
4r70w was used in 2000 and earlier 4.6L's. 99-00 5.4
4r70e was used in 01-03 5.4 and 01-05 4.6
4r75w 04-05 5.4
4r75e 06-08 5.4 and 4.6
I don't think so friend. I've done a lot of research on transmission applications, and while I focused more on the 90's and before trucks, one thing I found is you can't have that simple of a list. And as soon as you think you have the hard and fast rules, out pops a friday afternoon build truck with somethin' wack.

https://www.f150online.com/forums/ar...tion-page.html

And I have to go through that again with more new info.

OP, It may or may not. You'll have to pull it and match flexplate bolt patterns.



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Old Jul 17, 2011 | 09:52 AM
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tell me about ford throwing which ever trans in I have a 7700 with the 4r70.

I may not be correct on my info but I know now that they can all be swapped quite easily through out the entire family.
 
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