Hello fellas, I'm looking at picking up a 07 weekend warrior SX1800. I will be towing it with a 03 Supercrew 5.4 with 35's and 456 gears. I've researched a lot of the info on this forum but I want to get a real life perspective. Below are the specs.
Axel weight-3455
Hitch-480
GVWR-6580
Payload-2655

The toys I will be towing are 2 400 quads.

 

The max GVRW on the trailer is about max of your trucks ability in stock form. The lift and tires reduces the safety of pulling at the max capacities of the truck

ive pulled near the max before and its not fun. 2k trailer with a 3600lb car on it. It was sketchy for quick maneuvers at 55-60mph

 

The tow guide I use says max for your truck was 7100 stock which my bet is you would go past by the time you were loaded and ready to leave on a trip. While the gear change will offset the tire size change it won't offset the weight. So every extra pound of lift and tires and what ever else you may have added will come off your towing max. So even if you don't max out the trailer you will still likely be over loading the truck. The higher center of gravity will also effect handling and not in a good way. If you want a number my best guess would 5000 would be where I would draw the line but depending on factors i can't see or guess you could be safe up to 6000. That is based on making all the numbers correct and allowing for gas people and stuff in the truck while you travel. Then again drop factory size tires on it to tow with and you could bump the tow up to close to 8000 and be better off.

 

You will max out the truck's GVWR long before you hit the max tow limit unless you are running solo with no cargo or passengers in the truck. That's what you have to be concerned with. Toyhauler and 2 quads tells me you will have people, luggage, and supplies with you.

However, what I found with a bit of searching is that is one of the very few true 1/2 ton towable toyhaulers out there.

Even with the 4.56 gears, you will need to lock out O/D and keep your speeds down. Your tranny will hate it if you don't.

 

Thanks for the input fellas! I came to the conclusion that the 1/2 ton toyhaulers were truly not for half tons. Our 2007 tahoe still can't pull this completely stock. I don't know what I'm going to do. Thanks again

 

Buy a F-250 or a smaller trailer.........

Or - get a new F-150 with Ecoboost or 6.2 and max tow package. That would pull it no problem.

 

Part of the problem is truck manufactures have raised their tow ratings to absolute max. So no room for error anymore RV manufactures jumped on the higher tow ratings which suddenly made more of their product line look easier to tow. At work I am not allowed to lie however I am also not allowed to offer any real opinion. My boat is about 8000 on the trailer ready to fish and I would not tow it over 50 miles with my 09 F150 4X4 in fact my longest tow was under 20 miles and while it pulled fine at low speed I would not attempt to run at highway speed that heavy. If I were in your spot I would look for a Expedition or similar with the heavy tow package. I came close to buying a 03 Expedition Diesel to tow my boat with but decided to limit boat towing and get a better daily driver and a pickup. But I have to say I took several hard looks at the Expedition in the end I stuck with a newer truck. Very few overload their trailers however most overload their trucks because they do not consider cargo in the truck itself. And all that weight takes away from your towing capacity GCVW Gross Combined Vehicle Weight does not change inside a model range it is set based on the engine gear ratio and Tires and brakes. As the truck gets heavier the trailer tow rating goes down. If I had a Crew cab it would lower my tow rating by 300lbs if I had a 4X2 it would raise my tow rating about 200lbs it is give and take.

 

You do mean Excursion, don't you? Don't believe Expy's came with diesels.

 

I have one grade to climb and that's it! I can't afford another truck and the trailer is a 18' footer which is the smallest I want to go. I'm going to buy the toyhauler and tow it dry Andy wife will take the rest on our flat trailer. Thanks again!

 

Sounds like a decent plan but when you get the trailer hook it up dry and tow it to a scale. Have the truck full and the trailer empty but useable ( battery in full LP and a few gal of water in the fresh tank) this will give you a base weight that is honest. The tow guide I use say 13,000 is you max GCVW so subtract your dry weight from that and you know how much cargo you can add to it. If your going to be mostly towing on flat ground you probably won't have much trouble. Your engine and trans is rated to 15k in other models so you won't really run out of power what you will run out of is axle, wheel and brake rating. It is very likely you will hook it up and load it just fine then after driving a while your gonna say we were crazy it tows just fine.
Aussie was right I did mean Excursion sorry.
The fact is nearly all of us have towed overloaded a few times I know I have more than maxed out a bunch of trucks. So it would be easy to give you the Bubba number and say heck yeah you can tow it I towed stuff way heavier than that with mine. One of my best friends towed a 14X70 mobile home over 50 miles with his F150 because they wanted to charge him 500 bucks to move it. He jammed 6X6 blocks between the axle and frame hooked it up and drove off no permits never even told the park he was moving. So yes you can drag a lot more than the tow rating but for any of us to give you unsafe advise would be wrong. The only time being overloaded will cause you a issue is if you burn up truck parts or God forbid find out what happens when your too heavy and lose control. My son could tell you a great story of his trip to FL which ended up in Bowling Green where he left the trailer finished the trip without it and traded for a F250 diesel to come back and get the trailer with.

 

What's more important than GCVW is truck GVWR. Add the front and rear axle weights, they should not exceed GVWR.

 

That's going to depend on what and how he loads it most of the tow haulers tend to be tongue weight neutral when loaded because the heavy toys in the back reduce tongue and the kitchen stuff food and clothing bring the tongue weight back. By design it for many is a trailer you can fully load and not change tongue weight a lot. To use simple numbers and from memory so don't quote me 13,000 GCVW 7000 max towing capacity would leave 6000 for a GVWR lets say 600lbs hitch weight with hitch and truck weighs 4800 empty that leaves 600 lbs of room for people and cargo in the truck but only if you don't over load a axle doing it. The point is to be legal all the numbers have to match up. I did not mention GVWR because you've covered that quite well in many posts. Now the avg Joe does not have to pull in and be weighed so he can load up and go. he does pretty good on flat ground is slow on hills and then hits a long downhill this is where the fun starts. Because he does not have the tires or brakes to control the load and the trailer does not care if it gets there first. This is why almost all RV wrecks are on exits curves or downhill stretches.

 

I'm actually going to tow it with my wife's tahoe. Completely stock with the 5.3. I'm hoping my parents buy a house at that elevation so that I can just store it on their property and not have to deal with the pass at all until I get a diesel. The toyhauler is such a good deal I don't want to pass it up.

 

That is cool but everything we said will still apply to the Tahoe. Glad you got a good deal on the trailer I am sure you will love it.

 

Well my wife and I decided that we would wait and get a F250 diesel in a year or so. We figured that we would need a Toyhauler larger than a 16-18' for all 5 of us. Thanks for the input.