Hey guys I have a buddy who has a 95 K1500 with a 305 TBI 5 speed manual its a extended cab with a 3 in body lift and 33 in all terrains. its got dual exhaust but thats it as far as performance. I have a 97 F150 4 wd 4.6(w) auto short bed reg cab. with 33 in all terrains and am pretty much at stock height til this coming weekend. but i have exhaust exiting in front of my rear pass. tire with no muffler a K&N air filter and thats bout it. I dynoed it one time at my buddies shop for the hell of it and came out with 178hp and 240tq at the wheels. My truck seems to really haul a** I mean I have smoked a few people in rams and such so i am confident that I can hook up chains and tow him around the block. Am I right in being confident about that. Member he has just a 305 TBI with a 5 speed and one wheel wonder although he does have 4 wheel when not in 4 he is a one wheel wonder. I have posi in the rear and I have 4 wheel. Who do you think would win. I have told him a million times I want hook up but he keeps backin out he is scared and keeps tellin me that he wants to put his headers on first. I laugh and tell him he is a lil bi*ch. I even offered to just race him and he wont do that either.

 

Being able to drag a truck has NOTHING to do with your engine, your tires, your trans, your experience, or the size of your...

It's all about geometry. A stock worn-out POS Toyota 4-banger 4WD (in 2WD) will drag a new 1-ton dually PSTD around the world strictly because of the height difference. The truck with the higher point of attachment will win EVERY time.

If you use a REALLY long chain/cable, then it's more about the truck. Keep it short, and it's only a question of height.

If the trucks are attached at the same height, or by a long chain, then the one with more weight on the drive wheel(s) will probably win, as long as he has enough torque to get them turning. Horsepower isn't important since you won't be revving that high. Peak torque isn't important since you won't be revving that high. I mean LOW-end torque, just off-idle.

 

interesting to me but that all makes sense. I have never hooked up chains before. I have raced a million cars in my life and went muddin a ton but neither of those are going to be anything like hooking up chains I can only assume. so if I wait til after this weekend and I hook up with him then you are saying it will be completely about the trucks because as we are right now he is about a in higher in the rear than me but my cab is higher and my mirrors are higher. I have a set of rough country add a leafs coming this tues. that will add 2 in to my rear and I should be up higher than him in the rear too then. then I will haul him around? I also have a 20 foot tow strap coming with a 15k lbs breaking weight think its heavy enough to do this with? I just want to haul that chevy around the block man, he and all the other guys I go to school with are always like o ford sucks chevy this chevy that and I want to prove to them what a ford can do. how do I start out when we hook. do I hold the brake and wait for him to start spinning them then I give her gas and yank him back words? whats the theory on draggin someone backwards?

 

I'm not doubting you whatsoever, just trying to get a clearer image of your reasoning.
Would the truck with the higher point of attachment be better of because it will end up pulling the other truck up from the ground, taking weight off of its tires, and causing the lower truck to lose traction? Since if you're just spinning tires not gripping up, it doesn't matter what you're in right?
Or is there something else behind the higher vs. lower point of attachment that I am missing?

 

[QUOTE=fmf300ex]I'm not doubting you whatsoever, just trying to get a clearer image of your reasoning.
Would the truck with the higher point of attachment be better of because it will end up pulling the other truck up from the ground, taking weight off of its tires, and causing the lower truck to lose traction? Since if you're just spinning tires not gripping up, it doesn't matter what you're in right?
Or is there something else behind the higher vs. lower point of attachment that I am missing?

Thats exactly what I was thinking is it will just lift the other truck up enough to take the weight off the rear. we all kno that you need something on the rear to prevent spin.

 

Heh - he's nuts if he takes you up on it - if he had an automatic that's a different story. Too great a chance of blowing the clutch.

 

at that point I would feel bad that he broke his lil chevy but I would be to busy laughing my a** off to apologize that he owns a chevy! I really wanna hook up with him and even if he wont hook up with me I wanna race him. One great advantage he would have in a race is shifting alot quicker than our da** autos do. I hate how slow my trans shifts but as soon as I get my edge that will be taken care of too.

 

You're not getting it - it's the POINT OF ATTACHMENT that matters. Not the mirrors or ride height.If you can attach it higher on your truck, use the SHORTEST thing you can. If his attachment is level or higher, use the LONGEST, and put a bunch of weight in your bed, all the way at the t/g.If he's dumb enough to spin, let him - then drag him slowly your way. But if your attachment is higher, it really doesn't matter. You can rip his bumper off, or take it easy on his truck & JUST destroy his ego.Right.