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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 06:32 PM
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Why would you compare ratings from different equipment packages?
I didn't, that was my point....


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You know, Rangers come with 4.10s, can they tow that much?
I dont know about the Rangers, but I use to have and probbaly still do somewhere, have an old scale slip of my old bone stock 1990 Chevrolet S10, with 2.5l 4 cyl, 5spd, and it reads 16,276 lbs..... I was only licensed for 12K BL in it. I mis guessed the weight of my cousins trailer before loading it. It made it all the way home though, I was a little more careful after weighing it though..


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Ever heard of the Magnuson-Ferguson act?
No sir I havent, I dont have time to google right now, so what is it?
 
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 07:27 PM
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i don't know about anyother states but in Nebraska the state trooper will pull u over if u even look overloaded then call the dot to bring the scales. i've been through this more than a couple of times.

I had a friend that pulls a 32' goose neck horse trailer with a 97f150 4.6 with 12 cows in it roughly 19,000 lbs. it doesnt go very fast but it does go. he has 90000 mi. on the pickup now and still runs good.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 07:39 PM
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If there is a question and the person is being an idiot with it then it's the same here. Or commercial vehicles they will nail in a heart beat. Ussually DOT vans are sitting around and will pull them over but they use much the same judgement. As long as your in complete control and not a commercial driver then they turn a blind eye.
 
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Old Mar 8, 2007 | 09:20 PM
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i came to this towing section to ask a question but got all tied up reading this thread....... i think all you guys are missing a huge part of the tow rating. the brakes. i dont know but i dont think about how big or heavy the trailer is all i care about is being able to whoa her up if i need to.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 08:43 AM
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Trailers over 3000 pounds (and some lighter) have brakes to stop themselves. Truck brakes are for stopping the truck and trailer brakes should stop the trailer.
 
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Old Mar 9, 2007 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by PSS-Mag
No sir I havent, I dont have time to google right now, so what is it?
I accidentally combined the names of two acts, but here's the part that applies:

Originally Posted by Magnuson Moss Warranty Act 700.10 Section 102 (c)
No warrantor may condition the continued validity of a warranty on the use of only authorized repair service and/or authorized replacement parts for non-warranty service and maintenance.
Basically, Ford can't say "this warranty is void unless you use Ford parts" unless that specific non-Ford part can be proven to be the cause of the failure. For example: since Mobil oils meet manufacturer's ratings, and you used the correct weight specified, Ford can't say crap. However, if you were to install a Supercharger or use an aftermarket EFI program and the motor exploded, then Ford is exempt from the requirement of honoring the expressed warranty.

Get it?

If you want to read the whole thing:

http://www.autosafety.org/article.php?scid=116&did=754
 

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Old Mar 17, 2007 | 11:23 PM
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So now the DOT is in the business of evaluating and rating the vehicle's capacity? I don't think so...
Well start thinking so. The sdtte DOT doesn;t writethe tsicker but they can enforce it. Plus many states have maximum load/towing laws for example:

http://www.towingworld.com/articles/TowingLaws.htm

Also, if you are towing a significnat trailer, you may be "Deemed" a commercial entity. That does happen and it is upheld.

However see (12b) in the attached link as NC recognized the GVWR as a fluid number and allows some discretion in enforcement.

http://www.ncga.state.nc.us/EnactedL...hapter_20.html
 
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Old Mar 27, 2007 | 03:34 PM
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Towing up in the Sierra Nevada Mountains

Hi all,

I've got a 2002 F150 SuperCrew 5.4L FX4 (with full towing package) towing a 21 ft Attuitude Toyhauler (5000 dry). What are your thoughts on towing up an incline at around 9000- 10000 above sea level.

How will this effect my perfomance? It's "slow on the hills" around our home in So Cal!!

Thanks!:
 
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Old Mar 27, 2007 | 04:14 PM
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I think you will be 15 to 20 mph in 1st gear. But that's ok because other's without forced induction will have their own problems and understand.
Engine power will be much reduced so no extra wear and tear should occur.
That would be on a climb, as it levels out speed go up.
I was at 10 mph with Bronco 302 6K lbs loaded at 10,000 ft for a short distance. There was no other traffic, no problem........
 
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Old Mar 27, 2007 | 05:19 PM
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One thing you can do that may help, if you start running really rich, using alot of gas and losing power, then pull over and disconnect the battery for :30 seconds, then reconnect it. It will take about 10 miles for teh computer to learn the new air, and about 100 miles for the transmision to learn your driving style again. But actually your driving style will be different with 6K lbs behind you too, so the transmission will learn your driving style while towing and calibrate its self for that. Which is a good thing.
 
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Old Mar 27, 2007 | 06:35 PM
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I think you will be 15 to 20 mph in 1st gear. But that's ok because other's without forced induction will have their own problems and understand.
Engine power will be much reduced so no extra wear and tear should occur.
That would be on a climb, as it levels out speed go up.
I was at 10 mph with Bronco 302 6K lbs loaded at 10,000 ft for a short distance. There was no other traffic, no problem........
Thanks for the quick reply, PSS-Mag. Also, are the RPMs regulated by the transmission? In other words, do I need to keep the RPM below 4000 or so?

JRS
 
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Old Mar 27, 2007 | 09:23 PM
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I may have jumped the gun, If this is automatic then it resets by disconnecting the battery, if it's standard then you control the shifts all the time anyway.

If it's automatic then after resetting the computer, then I would drive it like normal and let the transmissin do what it wants to, let it decide what RPM range to put it in. Unless for some strange reason you are puling a hill, floored, and it starts losing speed and it doesn't kick down, then of course manually change gears. Of course these newer transmssion make previous generations seem like Semi-automatics. Now you just literally stick it in gear and let the vehicle decide what is going to be the less overall wear on the entire drivetrtain while maintaining speed if it can at all.
 
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