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BOOMER2011 03-03-2012 10:43 PM

goes back to the question " Who's truck is it?" Let them do what they please.

it also goes back to: Like it? Say so; Don't like it? $TF^!

Great build guys :thumbsup:

GTNOS 03-04-2012 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by BOOMER2011 (Post 4793850)
it also goes back to: Like it? Say so; Don't like it? $TF^!

so, according to YOU users can only post in a thread if they agree or like what they see? they cant express their opinion or views?

FYI, we live in Democratic AMERICA. Not Nazi Germany or Communist Russia. If we cant express our opinions, then whats the purpose of a public forum?

so, it goes back to: we live in a free society and can express our opinions. Like it? Say so; Dont like it? $TF^!:coffee:

BOOMER2011 03-04-2012 04:53 PM

omg you can read a map and apparently have read the constitution.

Im just saying it is their truck, If the wanted to paint it pink that is their choice, you right every one is entitled to their own opinion but you still shouldn't trash a thread with negativity.

GTNOS 03-04-2012 05:20 PM


Originally Posted by BOOMER2011 (Post 4794302)
omg you can read a map and apparently have read the constitution.

Im just saying it is their truck, If the wanted to paint it pink that is their choice, you right every one is entitled to their own opinion but you still shouldn't trash a thread with negativity.

yes i can, and why state the obvious, we all already knew it is his truck and that its his choice.

i wasnt trashing anything. just giving my opinion to which you are now agreeing that im entitled to? when before you said i should $TF^ if i didnt like what he was doing to his truck. bottom line, it was a forum discussion. "discussion" being the key word here. i cant help it you have socialistic tendancies and ideals.:lol:

BOOMER2011 03-04-2012 05:31 PM

If anything i was being fascistic since you called me a Nazi. I just have more respect for other people than you do.

GTNOS 03-04-2012 05:37 PM


Originally Posted by BOOMER2011 (Post 4794340)
If anything i was being fascistic since you called me a Nazi. I just have more respect for other people than you do.

i didnt call you anything. i just thought you were confused about what country you were standing in.:smoke:

animated_zombie 03-04-2012 05:45 PM

I saw this thread had been updated. Got excited. Turns out there has been no updates. :/

I'll check back later...

BOOMER2011 03-04-2012 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by GTNOS (Post 4794343)
i didnt call you anything. i just thought you were confused about what country you were standing in.:smoke:

at this very moment im in Germany:wave:, Tomorrow, now that is when i will be back in the U.S.

cditch13 03-05-2012 09:52 AM

Why are people so sensitive? No one is trashing the truck, I've said before that I love Raptors. The only thing being questioned is the choice of using a Raptor in competitive drag racing. If he started this thread and said "I'm going to throw a bunch of go fast parts at my Raptor" he would be getting nothing but a bunch of praise. But at the end of the day no matter how many people get all upset the FACT remains that the Raptor is a horrible choice if you want to be COMPETITIVE in drag racing, especially if you plan on retaining the stock suspension. That is a fact, not an opinion.

GTNOS 03-05-2012 02:24 PM

i donno. i agree. i voiced that same opinion as you. some have issues with opinions being given here and take it personally. i do realize its his raptor and as i think you said before that he is just tossing go fast parts at it with no intent to actually win a race. i think that maybe i took it a little too literally when i read the 1st post about it "killing" opponents at NMRA. It is not a vehicle for drag racing, but i guess if the OP wants to play with it and has the money, then so be it. At any rate, I wish him the best of luck and hope that he has fun with it, after all, thats the point.:thumbsup:

i will check in on this thread from time to time as i think raptors are cool just to see whats up with it. if he could find time in between drag race events to showcase some video of it flying over some sand dunes or something that would be great!!!!:banana:

iSurvive 03-07-2012 07:36 PM

Undercover Paint Color
 

Originally Posted by beefcake (Post 4775714)
Next on the list of things was a cover to stow our drag strip goodies, or whatever else might need to be carried.

We opted for the new Painted to match Undercover.

I've never been a huge fan of the Undercovers due to the "plastic" look. I like the A.R.E's, but the downside is the weight.

The painted to match Undercover is the hot ticket. Only weights in about 58 lbs, yet looks very clean on the truck. The model also has a sort of build in wing to give it a nice look.

The first thing we noticed was how well the cover appeared to be packaged.

http://site.teambeefcakeracing.com/raptorf.jpg

http://site.teambeefcakeracing.com/raptorg.jpg

Install was pretty simple, and with the reduced weight compared to an A.R.E. or other heavy brand, the time from start to finish was maybe 20 minutes.

http://site.teambeefcakeracing.com/raptori.jpg

Charlie hard at work!

http://site.teambeefcakeracing.com/raptorj.jpg

My man Gary lending a hand. If you think Gary looks familiar, go back to your Kansas City Chiefs or Tennessee Vols roster from way back!

http://site.teambeefcakeracing.com/raptork.jpg

The finished product looks great on the truck! A little bit of snow today, but you get the idea!

http://site.teambeefcakeracing.com/raptorl.jpg

http://site.teambeefcakeracing.com/raptoro.jpg

http://site.teambeefcakeracing.com/raptorp.jpg

The cover also comes with a preinstalled light which is nice.

http://site.teambeefcakeracing.com/raptors.jpg

With our trick bumpers in the process of being built by the guys at Wicked Performance Shop, we figured it's time to get to work on the fender flares.

We pulled off the fender flares (without breaking one clip I might add!).

We thought about going with a line x coating for that look to match the bumpers / running boards. But, due to the thickness and worry of scratching the oem paint, we decided to go a different route.

What we will be doing, is scuffing them up, adding "rock guard" to the flares, and then painting them with a flat black. This should give a slight textured look to the flares, and provide excellent protection out on the road.

http://site.teambeefcakeracing.com/raptort.jpg

http://site.teambeefcakeracing.com/raptoru.jpg

http://site.teambeefcakeracing.com/raptorv.jpg

Does the cover come painted to match the OEM paint job?

ak_cowboy 03-07-2012 08:04 PM


Originally Posted by iSurvive (Post 4796719)
Does the cover come painted to match the OEM paint job?

Hey dipstick, thanks for quoting 20 pics for a simple question....

RandomHero34 03-08-2012 11:38 AM


Originally Posted by ak_cowboy (Post 4796738)
Hey dipstick, thanks for quoting 20 pics for a simple question....

take it easy on him, he's new around these parts.

camopaint0707 03-08-2012 11:53 AM


Originally Posted by GTNOS (Post 4792533)
im sorry, but i too dont get this. why in the world, no wait, why in the universe, no wait, why in he11 do this to a raptor? why take a truck built almost exclusively for offroading and put it on asphalt?

these guys have obviously never raced a truck.

1st, it will get smoked. its not gonna "kill" anything at NMRA, unless their opponent breaks something coming off the line. a single cab 5.4l 2wd f150 running an s/c with modest boost (say 8-9 psi), lowered, geared properly with a locker, running slicks with a proper rear suspension set up can be done for 1/3 of the total price that they will have in this raptor, and the raptor will stand no chance against it. for one, he is 1000 lbs heavier with 4wd and being a crew cab. thats a second slower right there! (hint: every 100lbs of weight is a .10th of a second in the quarter, ask any real drag racer) and you just added probably another 100lbs with that glass tonneau. find one competitive drag racer with a glass tonneau. first, the wind drag in a truck bed is more of myth than fact due to the fact that todays manufacturers design the cab to channel the slipstream out and away from the bed. second, if there is any gain, it is surely lost by adding another 100lbs of weight.

i have raced trucks before. my last one ran high 10s on a $h1tload of laughing gas and a built motor. i know 2 guys who race lightnings, and they will tell you too that you will not find a harder vehicle to hook up hp at the track than a truck. period. first off, they have the worst front to rear weight ratio of any vehicle in the world. all nose heavy, no weight at all the back. racing trucks can be done, but it will need extensive and very well thought out suspension mods done. i ran a 4-link setup on mine with full slicks, a locker, and 4.90s.

and these guys are gonna do it on stock suspension? please. your talking about launching a 6000lb truck. to break into the 12s (which will be the point where you will even get noticed at NMRA) you will need to make at least 700 hp. while that may be possible with the 6.2 and enough boost (i dont know how much hp the stock internals can take, but 700hp is stretching a 5.4 pretty far) there is NO WAY, and i repeat, NO WAY that them or anyone else is going to hook up 700hp to the pavement with stock raptor soft swishy suspension. that thing is going to axle wrap like nothing youve ever seen. i know guys with mustangs who have a hard time hooking up less hp than that, with modded suspension on a car that was made to drag race. and your gonna do it on a 6000lb, 4x4 truck with stock offroad suspension?:lol:

and let me guess, you are going to counteract all of this with 4wd launches arent you?:lol::lol::lol: you will learn when you try it that it doesnt quite work the way you imagined it would in your "raptor gone drag racing wet dreams" you have been having.

there is a difference between 4wd and Awd. the industry created two different terms to describe channeling power to all 4 wheels for a reason. you might want to look into it.;)

More food for thought" Do you think there is a reason SVT made all the Lightnings 2wd?

here, play with this and see if im lying about hp and weight: http://robrobinette.com/et.htm also, that calculator assumes that you can hook up all that power ;)

you bought an awesome truck, but if your going to enter into any type of competition with it, go with offroad baja type racing. or at least drag race on the beach or in the desert or something. you have the perfect truck for that.

you want to go drag racing on asphalt, get a 2wd single cab and start modding, and for G--s sake, shave the weight off of it, dont add to it. If you take absolutely nothing from this post, at least understand that weight is a BAD thing when you want to race.:coffee:

Why you mad bro?

beefcake 03-09-2012 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by GTNOS (Post 4792533)
im sorry, but i too dont get this. why in the world, no wait, why in the universe, no wait, why in he11 do this to a raptor? why take a truck built almost exclusively for offroading and put it on asphalt?

these guys have obviously never raced a truck.

1st, it will get smoked. its not gonna "kill" anything at NMRA, unless their opponent breaks something coming off the line. a single cab 5.4l 2wd f150 running an s/c with modest boost (say 8-9 psi), lowered, geared properly with a locker, running slicks with a proper rear suspension set up can be done for 1/3 of the total price that they will have in this raptor, and the raptor will stand no chance against it. for one, he is 1000 lbs heavier with 4wd and being a crew cab. thats a second slower right there! (hint: every 100lbs of weight is a .10th of a second in the quarter, ask any real drag racer) and you just added probably another 100lbs with that glass tonneau. find one competitive drag racer with a glass tonneau. first, the wind drag in a truck bed is more of myth than fact due to the fact that todays manufacturers design the cab to channel the slipstream out and away from the bed. second, if there is any gain, it is surely lost by adding another 100lbs of weight.

i have raced trucks before. my last one ran high 10s on a $h1tload of laughing gas and a built motor. i know 2 guys who race lightnings, and they will tell you too that you will not find a harder vehicle to hook up hp at the track than a truck. period. first off, they have the worst front to rear weight ratio of any vehicle in the world. all nose heavy, no weight at all the back. racing trucks can be done, but it will need extensive and very well thought out suspension mods done. i ran a 4-link setup on mine with full slicks, a locker, and 4.90s.

and these guys are gonna do it on stock suspension? please. your talking about launching a 6000lb truck. to break into the 12s (which will be the point where you will even get noticed at NMRA) you will need to make at least 700 hp. while that may be possible with the 6.2 and enough boost (i dont know how much hp the stock internals can take, but 700hp is stretching a 5.4 pretty far) there is NO WAY, and i repeat, NO WAY that them or anyone else is going to hook up 700hp to the pavement with stock raptor soft swishy suspension. that thing is going to axle wrap like nothing youve ever seen. i know guys with mustangs who have a hard time hooking up less hp than that, with modded suspension on a car that was made to drag race. and your gonna do it on a 6000lb, 4x4 truck with stock offroad suspension?:lol:

and let me guess, you are going to counteract all of this with 4wd launches arent you?:lol::lol::lol: you will learn when you try it that it doesnt quite work the way you imagined it would in your "raptor gone drag racing wet dreams" you have been having.

there is a difference between 4wd and Awd. the industry created two different terms to describe channeling power to all 4 wheels for a reason. you might want to look into it.;)

More food for thought" Do you think there is a reason SVT made all the Lightnings 2wd?

here, play with this and see if im lying about hp and weight: http://robrobinette.com/et.htm also, that calculator assumes that you can hook up all that power ;)

you bought an awesome truck, but if your going to enter into any type of competition with it, go with offroad baja type racing. or at least drag race on the beach or in the desert or something. you have the perfect truck for that.

you want to go drag racing on asphalt, get a 2wd single cab and start modding, and for G--s sake, shave the weight off of it, dont add to it. If you take absolutely nothing from this post, at least understand that weight is a BAD thing when you want to race.:coffee:

Hey brainchild, how long you been around these parts?

I've been here for about a decade longer than you?

I don't know about racing trucks?

How bout this one that I ran the entire NMRA series in 2002 in, finishing 2nd in points with 2 event wins...

http://beef-cake.net/lightninghomepic.jpg

ESPN seemed to think I knew something about racing trucks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywA01...5&feature=plcp

Another win.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yx4ZL...6&feature=plcp

Oh crap, I almost forgot about the other national event I won in the truck. I think ESPN covered that too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=op8ZJ...8&feature=plcp

Full event coverage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpOJN...0&feature=plcp

Truck not fast enough,

How bout this one that was a 10.7 truck.

http://new-used-ford-cars-trucks-for....com/done1.jpg

http://new-used-ford-cars-trucks-for....com/done7.jpg

http://new-used-ford-cars-trucks-for...com/done10.jpg

Not fast enough.

Here is a video of my 9.37 pass in my daily driven Mustang GT this past weekend at Bradenton

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dA7Xr...w6MGsJGErkJ2M=

and of course the truck running, which, BTW, got tons of attention this past weekend. But I guess companies like Roush and Whipple don't know anything about racing either

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZnARe...dGoQSQNiIfIjw=

I'm soooo glad i have someone as intelligent as you to educate me in the art of drag racing and what the nmra / magazines want.

BTW, did you catch my feature in this month 5.0 Mustang for King of the Streets? I'm on the cover there BTW. I think I have a copy of the cover with my Lightning on it from a few years back too.

Or our cam install article in last months 5.0?

If not, stay tuned for the feature that Race Pages just shot in Bradenton this past weekend.

You can look for our 8 rib Vortech feature as well upcoming in the race pages too.


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