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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 09:53 AM
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Where's the roll, though - front or rear? Does it seem equally distributed? Do you have a sway bar up front? Regardless, change those shocks to Bilstein 5100s and see how she feels from there. I guarantee you that you will think you stepped into a different truck. Good shocks will make even the worst tires seem stickier (notice that I said "stickier", as in stickier than they were - I did not say "sticky"). You can go with the Bilstein HDs if you want to be stiffer and more responsive than stock, but don't want to be so stiff that it feels like a Volkswagen Gulf (and I mean that in a good way).
The roll is definitely all up front. I have always been big into performance cars and had a truck as my DD. I never looked into after market sway bars for the F150. The stock sway bar looks pretty beefy. What about a strut brace? Since I have an 07, does anyone know if the Harley editions came with a different suspension? Someone mentioned lightening suspension, but that is a different beast and (and model LOL). I have thought about finding some factory 20's to swap. I don't mind the 18's with bigger rubber, but bigger rubber means more sidewall squish which may counter act what ever I install to eliminate the current sway. I have an 07 Lariat Super Crew. I know my sig had said tunes forever now, but I have yet to pull the trigger. I ewas considering trading her in for an X5 and taking over my wifes X3 as I have always been a BMW fan, but X3 vs. F150 are two different experiences and in traffic and rain, I like my truck
 
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 10:50 AM
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My roll is pretty much mostly up front also. I don't think goin' from 18's to 20's is really gonna have a noticeable effect in the amount of roll. The roll is likely from the shocks, like what I'm experiencin'. I saw Rancho is havin' a promotion through the end of the year on their 9000XL shocks (and Quick Lift) where you get the wireless tuning remote for free. I think that's the route I'm gonna go (Quick Lift up front and 9000XL in the rear), unless someone can convince me the Bilstein 5100's would be a better decision.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 12:19 PM
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If the roll is up front, then struts should fix you up (let's not kid ourselves, though - the back end has a lot of roll, but I personally prefer a back end with sway as it makes the back end a bit more secure and planted on exit). I think the stock sway bar is actually very good, although I do see some brackets fail every now and then - easy to replace, though.

Get yourself some Bilstein HDs (stiff, but less stiff than 5100s) or the 5100s (about as firm as you can get without jumping up to King or Fox Coilovers). I would go with the HDs for 2wd and the 5100s for 4wd, but it really is a matter of preference.
 
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by _Flea_
I'd like to get rid of the body roll my '08 F-150 has. I only have about 17,700 miles on it, so I know the shocks aren't bad. They just cause the body to roll in turns. Will a set of Rancho or Bilstein or Rancho shocks solve my problem? I'd also like to level the truck out and kill two birds with one stone. Would I need to change front and rear shocks to get rid of the body roll?
try adding arear sway bar, upgrading your front sway bar and adding a pan hard bar
 
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Old Oct 15, 2010 | 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by tarajerame
try adding arear sway bar, upgrading your front sway bar and adding a pan hard bar
The sway bars don't sound like a bad idea at all. The Hellwig sway bars look pretty good.

Which would be a better decision to go with first, upgrading the shocks or sway bars?
 
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Old Oct 23, 2010 | 09:39 PM
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Interesting I just googled "body roll f150" and this thread came up. I have a 2010 Screw 4x2 that I think has excessive body roll. I will keep an eye on this thread to see where the suggestions go.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2010 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by _Flea_
The sway bars don't sound like a bad idea at all. The Hellwig sway bars look pretty good.

Which would be a better decision to go with first, upgrading the shocks or sway bars?
Stiffer shocks and sway bars are going to make the ride significantly harsher, so realize that before spending the money. At least with shocks, you can get adjustibles so if the ride is too harsh it can be changed. You don't have that option with sway bars. With shocks you may also get improved stopping distances.

As for the Hellwig sways, I had them on my Lightning, and they made a drastic difference in cornering, (much more so than the Hotchkis sways if anyone is thinking about those) and that made it worth the harsher ride for me.

Also, a couple things nobody mentioned for reducing body roll are urethane bushings and frame braces. Unlike everything else, a frame brace should make the ride smoother. I don't have personal experience with them, but that's what I've read.

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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 11:31 AM
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A rear sway bar is the first thing that came to mind when I started reading this. I see other members did end up mentioning it. The Hellwig kit is not that expensive, have been considering it myself for a while just have not fired on it yet.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 03:58 PM
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In my opinion, you were on the right track from the get go. Replace your OEM shocks with Bilstein 5100's set at the 2" lift setting. OR the Rancho 9000xls and an Autospring 2" spacer. I had both shocks and both will take care of your body roll issues. With the Ranchos, I love the adjustability so I can dial in the ride from soft to harsh and anywhere in between. Body roll will almost always be up front as thats where the weight is on a pickup truck and the new shocks will soak up that roll. A front swaybar will be a nice addition but in my opinion, the stock sway bar is fine unless you intend to road race your rig! You will see a bigger benefit by getting rid of those P-rated tires and getting yourself some wider LT tires for sure.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 04:16 PM
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Thanks for the opinions, y'all! I'm probably gonna start with the shocks (leanin' toward the Rancho Quick Lift up front and 9000XL's in the rear) and then add the sway bars later. But the first thing I need to do is convince the Mrs to free up the money. lol Everytime I ride in the truck I make sure to point out the body roll as she tries to keep from slidin' in the seat. I think I'll eventually be able to convince her of the "need" for the upgrade.
 
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Old Oct 25, 2010 | 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by _Flea_
Thanks for the opinions, y'all! I'm probably gonna start with the shocks (leanin' toward the Rancho Quick Lift up front and 9000XL's in the rear)...
I forgot about those Rancho QuickLifts...yeah, that's the way to go and you don't have to mess with a spacer. I think once you have the shocks dialed in, you'll be happy that you upgraded!

Forgot to add that before you go with a new front sway bar, consider swapping out all of the rubber components with urethane stuff from a company like Energy Suspension. You'll find that it will make a pretty significant difference at a fraction of the cost of new swaybars:
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Old Oct 26, 2010 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by StoveTop
I forgot about those Rancho QuickLifts...yeah, that's the way to go and you don't have to mess with a spacer. I think once you have the shocks dialed in, you'll be happy that you upgraded!

Forgot to add that before you go with a new front sway bar, consider swapping out all of the rubber components with urethane stuff from a company like Energy Suspension. You'll find that it will make a pretty significant difference at a fraction of the cost of new swaybars:
Energy Suspension Website
Thanks for the advice!
 
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Old Oct 27, 2010 | 09:22 PM
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Summit has the hellwig rear sway bar for 250 shipped I will be getting mine tomorrow cant wait to install it this weekend Summit is the cheapest one with shipping that I found and the hellwig sways are made form chromemoly insted of cold steel which is stronger and lighter. Shipping total weight is 32lbs and the eibach shipping weight is 50lbs hope this helps. I will let you know if it is a noticable differance when I get it installed
 
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by 1lohauler
Summit has the hellwig rear sway bar for 250 shipped I will be getting mine tomorrow cant wait to install it this weekend Summit is the cheapest one with shipping that I found and the hellwig sways are made form chromemoly insted of cold steel which is stronger and lighter. Shipping total weight is 32lbs and the eibach shipping weight is 50lbs hope this helps. I will let you know if it is a noticable differance when I get it installed
Cool, thanks! Definitely give an update after the install.
 
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Old Oct 28, 2010 | 03:14 PM
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Im planning on doing a how to post if I can get good pics and it arrived today almost took the tools to work to install it lol
 
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