Body Roll
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Where's the roll, though - front or rear? Does it seem equally distributed? Do you have a sway bar up front? Regardless, change those shocks to Bilstein 5100s and see how she feels from there. I guarantee you that you will think you stepped into a different truck. Good shocks will make even the worst tires seem stickier (notice that I said "stickier", as in stickier than they were - I did not say "sticky"). You can go with the Bilstein HDs if you want to be stiffer and more responsive than stock, but don't want to be so stiff that it feels like a Volkswagen Gulf (and I mean that in a good way).
My roll is pretty much mostly up front also. I don't think goin' from 18's to 20's is really gonna have a noticeable effect in the amount of roll. The roll is likely from the shocks, like what I'm experiencin'. I saw Rancho is havin' a promotion through the end of the year on their 9000XL shocks (and Quick Lift) where you get the wireless tuning remote for free. I think that's the route I'm gonna go (Quick Lift up front and 9000XL in the rear), unless someone can convince me the Bilstein 5100's would be a better decision.
If the roll is up front, then struts should fix you up (let's not kid ourselves, though - the back end has a lot of roll, but I personally prefer a back end with sway as it makes the back end a bit more secure and planted on exit). I think the stock sway bar is actually very good, although I do see some brackets fail every now and then - easy to replace, though.
Get yourself some Bilstein HDs (stiff, but less stiff than 5100s) or the 5100s (about as firm as you can get without jumping up to King or Fox Coilovers). I would go with the HDs for 2wd and the 5100s for 4wd, but it really is a matter of preference.
Get yourself some Bilstein HDs (stiff, but less stiff than 5100s) or the 5100s (about as firm as you can get without jumping up to King or Fox Coilovers). I would go with the HDs for 2wd and the 5100s for 4wd, but it really is a matter of preference.
I'd like to get rid of the body roll my '08 F-150 has. I only have about 17,700 miles on it, so I know the shocks aren't bad. They just cause the body to roll in turns. Will a set of Rancho or Bilstein or Rancho shocks solve my problem? I'd also like to level the truck out and kill two birds with one stone. Would I need to change front and rear shocks to get rid of the body roll?
Which would be a better decision to go with first, upgrading the shocks or sway bars?
Interesting I just googled "body roll f150" and this thread came up. I have a 2010 Screw 4x2 that I think has excessive body roll. I will keep an eye on this thread to see where the suggestions go.
As for the Hellwig sways, I had them on my Lightning, and they made a drastic difference in cornering, (much more so than the Hotchkis sways if anyone is thinking about those) and that made it worth the harsher ride for me.
Also, a couple things nobody mentioned for reducing body roll are urethane bushings and frame braces. Unlike everything else, a frame brace should make the ride smoother. I don't have personal experience with them, but that's what I've read.
Chris
A rear sway bar is the first thing that came to mind when I started reading this. I see other members did end up mentioning it. The Hellwig kit is not that expensive, have been considering it myself for a while just have not fired on it yet.
In my opinion, you were on the right track from the get go. Replace your OEM shocks with Bilstein 5100's set at the 2" lift setting. OR the Rancho 9000xls and an Autospring 2" spacer. I had both shocks and both will take care of your body roll issues. With the Ranchos, I love the adjustability so I can dial in the ride from soft to harsh and anywhere in between. Body roll will almost always be up front as thats where the weight is on a pickup truck and the new shocks will soak up that roll. A front swaybar will be a nice addition but in my opinion, the stock sway bar is fine unless you intend to road race your rig! You will see a bigger benefit by getting rid of those P-rated tires and getting yourself some wider LT tires for sure.
Thanks for the opinions, y'all! I'm probably gonna start with the shocks (leanin' toward the Rancho Quick Lift up front and 9000XL's in the rear) and then add the sway bars later. But the first thing I need to do is convince the Mrs to free up the money. lol Everytime I ride in the truck I make sure to point out the body roll as she tries to keep from slidin' in the seat. I think I'll eventually be able to convince her of the "need" for the upgrade.
Forgot to add that before you go with a new front sway bar, consider swapping out all of the rubber components with urethane stuff from a company like Energy Suspension. You'll find that it will make a pretty significant difference at a fraction of the cost of new swaybars:
Energy Suspension Website
Last edited by StoveTop; Oct 25, 2010 at 05:26 PM.
I forgot about those Rancho QuickLifts...yeah, that's the way to go and you don't have to mess with a spacer. I think once you have the shocks dialed in, you'll be happy that you upgraded!
Forgot to add that before you go with a new front sway bar, consider swapping out all of the rubber components with urethane stuff from a company like Energy Suspension. You'll find that it will make a pretty significant difference at a fraction of the cost of new swaybars:
Energy Suspension Website
Forgot to add that before you go with a new front sway bar, consider swapping out all of the rubber components with urethane stuff from a company like Energy Suspension. You'll find that it will make a pretty significant difference at a fraction of the cost of new swaybars:
Energy Suspension Website
Summit has the hellwig rear sway bar for 250 shipped I will be getting mine tomorrow cant wait to install it this weekend Summit is the cheapest one with shipping that I found and the hellwig sways are made form chromemoly insted of cold steel which is stronger and lighter. Shipping total weight is 32lbs and the eibach shipping weight is 50lbs hope this helps. I will let you know if it is a noticable differance when I get it installed
Summit has the hellwig rear sway bar for 250 shipped I will be getting mine tomorrow cant wait to install it this weekend Summit is the cheapest one with shipping that I found and the hellwig sways are made form chromemoly insted of cold steel which is stronger and lighter. Shipping total weight is 32lbs and the eibach shipping weight is 50lbs hope this helps. I will let you know if it is a noticable differance when I get it installed






