HBS 2.5" just installed
HBS 2.5" just installed
As it reads, I just picked up my '08 scab 4x4 from the shop, I had them install the 2.5" Hell Bent Steel leveling kit up front. Brought the top center of my wheel well from 37" to 39.5 on the nose. It looks absolutely amazing, I'm in love with my truck again! I'll put some pics up tomorrow. The shop also installed the Moog UCAs and lower BJs I ordered, I like that they are greasable, not a sealed non-servicable unit. Got the front end aligned, too. The one concern I have after getting the truck back is i took a look and saw the UCAs were slightly rubbing the coils, and wore a little of the coating off on each side, same area of the coil (about midway). I don't feel any rubbing or hear anything when hitting a bump, and the wear mark doesn't look too severe at all, but does anyone have any real input (preferably someone who has had this happen)? Should I be concerned, or should I just keep an eye on it? Thanks. Again, pics to follow.
Congrats about getting the work done....but that is defiantly a problem, I took my 2.5" spacer kit out because of the extreme angles it put my UCAs at..because they were rubbing my springs as well. Make sure you upload some pics of the UCAs and all your angles so people can see and give you their opinion. Personally I'd say that is a serious issue and you should look into getting it fixed asap, I was told by a few other people that it will only lead to more serious problems down the road...literally and figuratively
Like I said steve, I'll upload the pics tomorrow. Gotta take a few more. Meeka88, what kind of serious issue is it? What can happen down the road, other than faster bushing wear out and greater ball joint stress? Not saying those are not issues at all, but just wondering what may happen?
Edit...I just used the funny little search feature here we all at some point look over. Seems my problem is not totally uncommon to NBS F150s. Read over several posts where rubbing had occured but seemed to be more of a nuisance than a major problem, although I found one post where someone mentioned the possibility of something binding up. It seems the two easiest fixes were 1: the offset Autospring spacer, helps to prevent contact of the UCA and spring. 2: coilovers, but at about $900 a pair for Kings, Camburgs or TCs, it's a very pricey fix. A third possibility I guess is the Bilstein 5100s, but I'm not positive that those will prevent the rubbing, and apparently right now they are virtually impossible to get your hands on (something like a 4 or 5 month back order!)
Anyhow, I will keep my eyes on things, and tomorrow after work I will post a few pics.
Edit...I just used the funny little search feature here we all at some point look over. Seems my problem is not totally uncommon to NBS F150s. Read over several posts where rubbing had occured but seemed to be more of a nuisance than a major problem, although I found one post where someone mentioned the possibility of something binding up. It seems the two easiest fixes were 1: the offset Autospring spacer, helps to prevent contact of the UCA and spring. 2: coilovers, but at about $900 a pair for Kings, Camburgs or TCs, it's a very pricey fix. A third possibility I guess is the Bilstein 5100s, but I'm not positive that those will prevent the rubbing, and apparently right now they are virtually impossible to get your hands on (something like a 4 or 5 month back order!)
Anyhow, I will keep my eyes on things, and tomorrow after work I will post a few pics.
Last edited by ryan42680; May 25, 2010 at 09:45 PM.
Here's some pics...

Leveled out

CV angle (new BJ with grease fitting)

UCA angle (new UCA w/ grease fitting)

UCA rubbed coil?
To go through, I am so happy with the look now that she's level. It's amazing what 2.5" will do to a truck. Next will be some new shoes, but one thing at a time! Next, the CV angle doesn't bother me terribly. It's not nearly as severe as I though it would end up. I remember seeing a post where a member pointed out that you must think 360 degrees on that shaft, so though that angle up and down looks bad, what does it look like when you turn your wheel? Far worse I would imagine...I may be looking at that wrong though! Also note my new greasable lower BJ. Next, I'd like to address the UCA angle. Again, not nearly as bad as I had expected. Sure it's relatively steep, but honestly that picture was me outside the well holding the cam, bit of a funny angle. And maybe I'll just continuously grease the hell outta the fittings! Last is the area where the coil and UCA made contact. Couple hundred miles on since, and it looks the same, no worse. The angle of the rubbing and the UCA don't match up though, as there was a little rubbed off on the inner bottom of the coil, too. I am almost wondering if it wasn't the UCA, but a tool mark, maybe a spring compressor or wrench or something? Maybe not though. Oh well. This guy right here is happy as hell with the finished product.
If anyone would like any different pics or angles of anything else, from a different view, lmk, I'll do them as requested. I'll try to update as well as time goes on or if anything different happens.

Leveled out

CV angle (new BJ with grease fitting)

UCA angle (new UCA w/ grease fitting)

UCA rubbed coil?
To go through, I am so happy with the look now that she's level. It's amazing what 2.5" will do to a truck. Next will be some new shoes, but one thing at a time! Next, the CV angle doesn't bother me terribly. It's not nearly as severe as I though it would end up. I remember seeing a post where a member pointed out that you must think 360 degrees on that shaft, so though that angle up and down looks bad, what does it look like when you turn your wheel? Far worse I would imagine...I may be looking at that wrong though! Also note my new greasable lower BJ. Next, I'd like to address the UCA angle. Again, not nearly as bad as I had expected. Sure it's relatively steep, but honestly that picture was me outside the well holding the cam, bit of a funny angle. And maybe I'll just continuously grease the hell outta the fittings! Last is the area where the coil and UCA made contact. Couple hundred miles on since, and it looks the same, no worse. The angle of the rubbing and the UCA don't match up though, as there was a little rubbed off on the inner bottom of the coil, too. I am almost wondering if it wasn't the UCA, but a tool mark, maybe a spring compressor or wrench or something? Maybe not though. Oh well. This guy right here is happy as hell with the finished product.

If anyone would like any different pics or angles of anything else, from a different view, lmk, I'll do them as requested. I'll try to update as well as time goes on or if anything different happens.
Last edited by ryan42680; May 27, 2010 at 09:49 PM.
I think I'm going to go with a 33x12.50. I wanted to go 35, but after seeing a few trucks leveled with 35s, as good as they look, I feel the tires look a little stuffed in there. Probably going with a Toyo MT, but may go Nitto due to price despite quicker wear. Truck now sees maybe 4-500 miles a month at most, so wear isn't a huge concern right now.
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The UCA hitting the coil is very common when going with lift spacers. Autospring spacers now have a built-in offset that pushes the coil farther inboard to prevent the rubbing. I haven't seen any other manufacturer offering anything similar. Even on my truck, I have a 1" spacer on top of my lift and I can see very slight contact with the black coating on the spring...and that's with a one inch spacer! As for any potential problems, I really don't think it's anything you should be too concerned about.
Thanks for the compliments, everyone. I just wish I had cleaned it up for it's debut leveled pic. wheels are caked in dust and paint looks dull, but the deep blue really does clean up nicely. Maybe this weekend I'll have a re-shoot. StoveTop, I figured that's what was taking place, and like you said, it's relatively minor contact, nothing grinding, so I'm not overly concerned, I'll just keep an eye on things.


