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Old Sep 13, 2009 | 01:51 PM
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ball joints and bad angles?

ive seen people say on here that when you stack certain things like spacers and lift kits or spindles you get bad angles and it messes with your ball joints?

im thinking about stacking 3 inch spindles and a 2.5-3 inch leveling kit to run 315x75x16s will this give me problems? and it says i need aftermarket control arms and longer shocks to run a 2.5 inch levling spacer is this neccarsy?
 
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Old Sep 13, 2009 | 01:55 PM
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YES your ball joints need to be able to move with the suspension too much angle will cause vibration and severe damage depending on what you have for application and the shocks are good also to help maintain your front end and steering components. Bad shocks equal bad tie rods, pitman, idler etc. wears it all out from lack of support and such.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2009 | 02:00 PM
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damnnn ok. looks like im not doing that cause it will cost more than the rcd lift i want. lol. if i just put the shocks on there would it still be bad?
 
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Old Sep 13, 2009 | 02:01 PM
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would i be able to run 315x75x16 with a 1.5 leveling kit and 3 inch spindles?? or would there be rubbing when i turn the steering wheel all the way?
 
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Old Sep 13, 2009 | 02:16 PM
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Yes with that much nonsuspension lifting you're just asking for problems even for a street queen.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2009 | 02:36 PM
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what year is your truck. with the right wheels ive been told you can run 35"s on a 97-03 2wd with a 1.5" level and 3.5" spindles which doesnt require new shocks or control arms
 
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Old Sep 13, 2009 | 04:54 PM
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its a 2001 screw 2wd
 
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Old Sep 13, 2009 | 05:48 PM
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Then from what I've heard with 3.5" lift spindles and 1.5" spacer and the right wheels (oem will work) you can get 35" up front and you'll have to do blocks or blocks and aal in the rear. Id do it and show us what it looks like for when I do it haha
 
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Old Sep 13, 2009 | 05:50 PM
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Just run a 3" PA body lift with 3.5" lift spindles. You will be as tall as a 4x4 with a body lift and they run 35's all day.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2009 | 07:27 PM
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body lift cost too much to install and i dont know how to do them myself cause im only in highschool. are oem wheels like stock f150 wheels? this is the spindle lift i was thinkin about

http://www.topguncustomz.com/Store/G...iview=32327836

also if i got a 2 inch spacer will i need control arms or shocks?
and how hard is it to instal spindles and a leveling kit?
 
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Old Sep 13, 2009 | 07:34 PM
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the wheel i want to use is a 16x8. will i have issues running the 3 inch spindle and the 2 inch leveling kit with these rims??

http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/fin...rw=&rc=NVLINT\

thats the link for the wheel
 
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Old Sep 13, 2009 | 07:51 PM
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body lift cost too much to install and i dont know how to do them myself cause im only in highschool. are oem wheels like stock f150 wheels? this is the spindle lift i was thinkin about

http://www.topguncustomz.com/Store/G...iview=32327836

also if i got a 2 inch spacer will i need control arms or shocks?
and how hard is it to instal spindles and a leveling kit?
Body lifts are not hard to do. I got mine for $175 and didnt spend a dime more. The instructions are very thorough. But at the same time dont do anything you are not sure you can do. I would hate for you to get your truck apart and get lost even though we will help you if you do.

That is a good lift or so I hear, but good luck getting ahold of that company. I would suggest getting the Doestch spindle lift because the company is reputable, and it might even be cheaper. You would need to go with the 1.5" leveling kit in order to not need new CA's or shocks.

OEM wheels are the wheels that came on the truck from factory. Or any of the wheels that were installed on the 150's(your year model) at that time.

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the wheel i want to use is a 16x8. will i have issues running the 3 inch spindle and the 2 inch leveling kit with these rims??

http://www.discounttire.com/dtcs/fin...rw=&rc=NVLINT\

thats the link for the wheel
That link for the wheel for whatever reason is no working. Using a 16x8 would not give you any problems. Just make sure they are a 5x135mm. I would recommend looking for a wheel with a negative offset. I am running a 16x10 with 4.5" of backspacing and an -38 offset. It pushes the tires out pretty wide. Something else I thought I wold mention would be that lift spindles would increase the front track width.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2009 | 08:07 PM
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does doestch have a website cause ive only heard of them but never actually seen them.
ya im not a mechanic really so i would rather have a shop do it. so with the tract width wider will the front wheels be pushed out further in the back? if so can i get a spacer in the back to do the same and about how far will it push the front wheels out?
ill have to ask my friend about the offset and backspacing cause the description of the whell on the site doesnt say anything about that. also with only have 4.5 inches of lift with the spindles and the leveling kit will that be enough to clear the 315 75 16s with a 16x8 wheel
 
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Old Sep 13, 2009 | 09:25 PM
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Yes sir you can use either of these two links.
http://www.doetsch-shocks.com/9.asp
http://www.doetsch-shocks.com/20.asp

Your wheels will be slightly "pushed out" further than your rear wheels. Do not.. and I repeat don't use spacers. There is no way around it, because you are lifting a 2wd.

I dont know for sure that you will be able to clear 35's without any rubbing at all. If you dont get new rims/wheels than you could pull it off but it will rub on the lift spindle. You can get spacers to clear the OEM wheels for the front(not recommended) but its a fix. If you do get new wheels the tires might rub on the wheel wells or the front valance(it can be trimmed to clear so dont worry).

If I were you I would set my sights for atleast 5-6" of lift. With 5 you might be able to squeeze some 35's in there without rubbing. I know you can do it with 6" because I have seen it done. You have alot of options to get there.. its just a matter of which way you go.
 
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Old Sep 13, 2009 | 09:47 PM
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damn i like those kits that you linked me. i think ill look into the 6/3 a lot more cause the price is pretty good. with that kit i will be able to clear 35s am i right?
and with that kit is the ride pretty good?
 
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