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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 06:52 PM
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Cool 8" Rize, CST Decision Help

Let me start by saying that I have read through many threads on this site and understand that there are various opinions as to what looks good, how trucks should be used, etc.

I do not go off roading and my knowledge of components of lifts is limited although I do have a background in general auto mechanics. I love the way lifted trucks look and personally wouldn't ever want to drive anything else despite what the gas prices are/were.

So with that being said, I will now get into my decision that I am asking help on. Let me start by saying that the look that I am after is 8" of lift, 37" tires and 22" wheels. (Yes I know some people do not like the big rims look on lifted trucks but I do! )

I looked into the 8" kits from both Rize and CST in order to fit 37" toyos but I have also read that such lift could possibly be accomplished using a 6" fabtech with the addition of spacers and an AAL? (Please correct me if I'm wrong here.) The 8" kits are a bit pricey which is why I have yet to go that route.

If I do not plan on seeing any dirt, would a 6" kit with spacers/AAL allow me to fit 37"s? I have read that this set up would not be safe/ideal in an off road situation but would it work for someone in my situation? I will simply keep to the streets and may only have to commute from CA to FL and back one time in the next year.

Here's a picture of the look I am going for:


Thanks in advance for all responses. Feel free to post any questions that you may have that would enable you to better help me out.

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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 06:55 PM
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while you may be able to pack some 37's in on 6'' of lift (Josiah has and wheels the hell out of his truck) your truck would be better off w/ the 8'' of lift because of suspension geometry reasons. your truck will ride smoother too, w/o the leveling kits/spacers.

if you have the funds, i would recommend an 8'' suspension lift over a 6'' for what you want to accomplish w/ your truck.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 07:44 PM
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Well I'm assuming the reason you might want to do the 6" with 2" spacer and AAL is because of the price. I would always recommend just doing the full 8" suspension lift for the sake of durability and ride quality but the 6" with spacer and aal will work fine for a daily driver. Theres a guy on here I know of that runs that same setup with 37s and 22s, his name is glcash, heres a link to a thread with pics of his truck https://www.f150online.com/forums/su...ese-hosss.html
 
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 08:47 PM
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Will,

For 4WD, I like the Rize kit. For 2WD, CST makes an awesome product. My own personal experience with picking out a lift resulted in my truck getting the Fabtech w/ adjustable coilovers & steering stabilizer. I'm also in The Bay Area. Explorer Pro Comp, Fabtech, Rize, & California Super Truck are all Southern California companies. What that means for you is that they are close enough to offer product support & spare parts, as opposed to having to wait for something to ship from across the country.

Your next step is to call these companies and speak to their reps. They'll be able to answer all your questions. CST also offers installation. Even if you're a "do-it-yourself" kind of guy, wouldn't it be awesome to have the manufacturer install the lift while you wait & watch? A field trip might be in order. See if you can get a better price if you pay cash and buy it direct from them. You are sure to save money on shipping. And you're a mere 6 hours, give or take, from being able to see the lifts & accessories for them. Look into the coilovers, steering stabilizers, traction control bars, et cetera.

Good luck. Keep us posted.

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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 08:49 PM
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i would go with an 8". and if you can afford 22's and 37's i think you can afford a true 8" kit. and by doing so you can always go up to 10" easily if you decide you want more lift. the rize lift would look the sickest if your wanting that "show truck" look. check out fx4lifes truck he has 20's and 37's i think and his truck is one of the best on the site IMO. there is also a truck with 24's and 37's with a rize lift. his name has black in it. you will also need to regear as well. 4.88's are recommended for 37+ size tires. BDS makes an 8" lift kit as well. i have their 6" kit and its an amazing kit, best warranty hands down. if you break it, they replace it, no questions asked.
 

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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by minimonster17
while you may be able to pack some 37's in on 6'' of lift (Josiah has and wheels the hell out of his truck) your truck would be better off w/ the 8'' of lift because of suspension geometry reasons. your truck will ride smoother too, w/o the leveling kits/spacers.

if you have the funds, i would recommend an 8'' suspension lift over a 6'' for what you want to accomplish w/ your truck.
I absolutely love Josiah's truck. I've watched his youtube videos time and time again just drooling puddles. I assume that if his set up works for him than I would have no problems whatsoever. Anyone happen to know what he runs? My truck is already lifted 6" with 35"s so what would I need in addition to this?

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Well I'm assuming the reason you might want to do the 6" with 2" spacer and AAL is because of the price. I would always recommend just doing the full 8" suspension lift for the sake of durability and ride quality but the 6" with spacer and aal will work fine for a daily driver. Theres a guy on here I know of that runs that same setup with 37s and 22s, his name is glcash, heres a link to a thread with pics of his truck https://www.f150online.com/forums/su...ese-hosss.html
Thanks for the link. That's exactly the look I'm aiming for right there. My truck is my daily driver but I don't have to commute back and forth to work a zillion miles a day as some people do. I pretty much just drive to and from random places within town. The main reason I'm attempting to avoid the 8" suspension lift is because of the money. If I had more money I would for sure just go w an 8" rize or cst but it's simply too pricey for me ATM.

From your guy's response I am now believing that the look I want can be accomplished with the addition of some spacers and AAL?
 
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 10:05 PM
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Will,

For 4WD, I like the Rize kit. For 2WD, CST makes an awesome product. My own personal experience with picking out a lift resulted in my truck getting the Fabtech w/ adjustable coilovers & steering stabilizer. I'm also in The Bay Area. Explorer Pro Comp, Fabtech, Rize, & California Super Truck are all Southern California companies. What that means for you is that they are close enough to offer product support & spare parts, as opposed to having to wait for something to ship from across the country.

Your next step is to call these companies and speak to their reps. They'll be able to answer all your questions. CST also offers installation. Even if you're a "do-it-yourself" kind of guy, wouldn't it be awesome to have the manufacturer install the lift while you wait & watch? A field trip might be in order. See if you can get a better price if you pay cash and buy it direct from them. You are sure to save money on shipping. And you're a mere 6 hours, give or take, from being able to see the lifts & accessories for them. Look into the coilovers, steering stabilizers, traction control bars, et cetera.

Good luck. Keep us posted.

5150
Thanks for the insight. I'm starting to look into the companies you mentioned as well as preparing to call them tomorrow for some more information. Hadn't thought about taking the truck for a trip to SoCal to get it done but I see where that could same me money on shipping to "do it myself" and I would be more than happy to pay cash for a discount.

I think you may be from San Francisco. In that case, really really busy city but there are so many good reasons to visit. Don't know if you're a Giants fan but the games and the garlic fries, well, you know.

Originally Posted by 06yz250f
i would go with an 8". and if you can afford 22's and 37's i think you can afford a true 8" kit. and by doing so you can always go up to 10" easily if you decide you want more lift. the rize lift would look the sickest if your wanting that "show truck" look. check out fx4lifes truck he has 20's and 37's i think and his truck is one of the best on the site IMO. there is also a truck with 24's and 37's with a rize lift. his name has black in it. you will also need to regear as well. 4.88's are recommended for 37+ size tires. BDS makes an 8" lift kit as well. i have their 6" kit and its an amazing kit, best warranty hands down. if you break it, they replace it, no questions asked.
I found the rize for $2700

The tires that I found would run me $2086 for a set of 4 and the wheels are looking to be about $1720. Together they'd be $3806 and add mount/balance. I'm not too sure how much/what else I'd need if I were going to do spacers and AAL but I don't think that it'd be more than another grand? (Correct me if I'm wrong.) That would save me about $1700 which is quite a bit for a college student.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 11:01 PM
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okay so your truck is already lifted 6 inches?

If so what kit do you have?
if you have a procomp stage one with the 6" spacer than i would recommend getting some coilovers from fabtech (what i did) and cranked em a but to get my 8 inches. ( thats what Josiah did aswell)
If you have a fabtech then you can get a 2" spacer. Putting a spacer on that kit is basically like everyone that has leveled there trucks on here. and thats in the high thousands or more. So no worries there. you can pick up a nice 2" Autospring spacer for $75, i'd say get a 5.5" procomp block for the rear $75 and a 2" AAL $120 so for another $270 you can have an 8" and clear 37's on 22's. Should be sick man. post plenty of pics.
 
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 11:08 PM
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if your truck is already lifted you should have said that. you made it sound like you hadn't lifted it yet at all. if you have a 6" kit with a spacer all you need is a bilstein adjustables and set at 2" setting or if you have a 6" kit w/ a new strut you need a 2" AS spacer or if you have coilovers just crank them 2". for the rear you can either A) get a larger block or B) get an AAL or C) get a shackle lift. if you don't already have a 6" kit then i would recommend a fabtech or BDS with the new strut and just do a 2" spacer, it would look much cleaner than a spacer, i am getting rid of mine when it comes time to replace all my shocks
 
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Old Jan 11, 2009 | 11:19 PM
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Hrm, well it would be a waste to buy a whole new 8" kit if you already have a 6" installed. Your cheapest solution to clear 37s would be to add a 2" spacer and rear aal. If you don't mind spending more then I'd get coil overs.

Then sell your 35s and regear
 
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 03:40 PM
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if you want to do it right i would say get the 8". sell you 6" and get the better lift.

rize makes a cool lift very esthetically pleasing i would have gotten it if it cam with uca's which is why i got the CST. to me it seems like a little bit better quality. also you
can put a skid plate on if you want to make it look a little bit prettier. lol thats what i did.

here's a link to some pic's of my truck with a CST 8":
https://www.f150online.com/forums/me...-pictures.html
 

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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Eff One Fifty
okay so your truck is already lifted 6 inches?

If so what kit do you have?
if you have a procomp stage one with the 6" spacer than i would recommend getting some coilovers from fabtech (what i did) and cranked em a but to get my 8 inches. ( thats what Josiah did aswell)
If you have a fabtech then you can get a 2" spacer. Putting a spacer on that kit is basically like everyone that has leveled there trucks on here. and thats in the high thousands or more. So no worries there. you can pick up a nice 2" Autospring spacer for $75, i'd say get a 5.5" procomp block for the rear $75 and a 2" AAL $120 so for another $270 you can have an 8" and clear 37's on 22's. Should be sick man. post plenty of pics.
I think that I'll go with the coilovers. Any recommendations? I believe that this will work with the 6" lift that I already have. I took a picture to post on here so I could double check with you guys.

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if your truck is already lifted you should have said that. you made it sound like you hadn't lifted it yet at all. if you have a 6" kit with a spacer all you need is a bilstein adjustables and set at 2" setting or if you have a 6" kit w/ a new strut you need a 2" AS spacer or if you have coilovers just crank them 2". for the rear you can either A) get a larger block or B) get an AAL or C) get a shackle lift. if you don't already have a 6" kit then i would recommend a fabtech or BDS with the new strut and just do a 2" spacer, it would look much cleaner than a spacer, i am getting rid of mine when it comes time to replace all my shocks
I'm sorry I didn't mention that I had the lift earlier. When writing I got too caught up in trying to make sure everyone on here understood the set up I was looking for and forgot to mention what I already had set up.

 
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by bud8817
if you want to do it right i would say get the 8". sell you 6" and get the better lift.

rize makes a cool lift very esthetically pleasing i would have gotten it if it cam with uca's which is why i got the CST. to me it seems like a little bit better quality. also you
can put a skid plate on if you want to make it look a little bit prettier. lol thats what i did.

here's a link to some pic's of my truck with a CST 8":
https://www.f150online.com/forums/me...-pictures.html
Your truck looks siccckk bro. Your skid plate and exhaust are definitely two things that I seen on your truck that I haven't seen on others I've looked at. I've got your grenade too! Nice look man. Do you get any trouble for your tint livin in Cali? My girlfriend and I have both gotten tickets for ours.
 
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Old Jan 12, 2009 | 08:50 PM
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Personally I'd go with the CST if money is no option. Their front cross members are welded together which in my eyes is superior to rize and the fact that you get upper control arms.

If you don't want to spend tons of money just throw another 2 inches onto your lift with spacers or coil-overs.

I'm running the pro-comp kit on my truck. I've got 37's and coil-overs/aal. I'm in the bay area also if you wanted to check it out.

Here is a picture of the setup.

 
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Old Jan 13, 2009 | 12:52 AM
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i wish i was in the bay area.

In to years im going to school out there. if i still am rocking the truck we need ot have a truck meet man. i have yet to see one lifted F-150 like mine in chicago
 
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