HUGE Problem guys, HELP!!! DAVENSA! ANYONE!
Okay, just got the truck back from getting a dent taken out ALL week. While inspecting the truck everwhere, I noticed something I've never noticed before, or heard of.
Since getting my new tires and rims, the rear driver's side tire sits inside the wheel well, while the rear passenger tire sticks out of the wheel well by 2-3"! Hopefully you can get a visual of what I am talking about. (Looking at truck from behind, you can barely see the left tire, and the right is completely sticking out of the well, which is the way it's supposed to look) The pic below is the correct side.
Any idea of why this is. It looks horrible, and something must be wrong. Maybe the body lift?
correct tire position (passenger side):
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2000 F150 XLT 4.6L V8 Auto, SuperCab, Torreador Red Metallic, Magnaflow Cat-Back Exhaust, K&N Drop-in, Ford Bedliner, Tinted Windows, Steel Horse Billet Grill, Fabtech 3.5" Spindles, 1.5" rear blocks, 3" Body Lift, Lift Lips, 33/12.50/16.5 BFG AT's on 16.5x9.75 American Eagle 589's, Fabtech Performance Shocks, Sylvania Cool Blue Headlights
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Since getting my new tires and rims, the rear driver's side tire sits inside the wheel well, while the rear passenger tire sticks out of the wheel well by 2-3"! Hopefully you can get a visual of what I am talking about. (Looking at truck from behind, you can barely see the left tire, and the right is completely sticking out of the well, which is the way it's supposed to look) The pic below is the correct side.
Any idea of why this is. It looks horrible, and something must be wrong. Maybe the body lift?
correct tire position (passenger side):
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2000 F150 XLT 4.6L V8 Auto, SuperCab, Torreador Red Metallic, Magnaflow Cat-Back Exhaust, K&N Drop-in, Ford Bedliner, Tinted Windows, Steel Horse Billet Grill, Fabtech 3.5" Spindles, 1.5" rear blocks, 3" Body Lift, Lift Lips, 33/12.50/16.5 BFG AT's on 16.5x9.75 American Eagle 589's, Fabtech Performance Shocks, Sylvania Cool Blue Headlights
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I'm gonna guess it happened during the body lift. I bet if you loosen the bed bolts and nudge the bed over it would even out.
How does the bed's clearences compare on each side of the cab? Where the back window is.
[This message has been edited by ccla (edited 03-23-2001).]
How does the bed's clearences compare on each side of the cab? Where the back window is.
[This message has been edited by ccla (edited 03-23-2001).]
Looks even...I swear I have the worst luck with this truck.
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2000 F150 XLT 4.6L V8 Auto, SuperCab, Torreador Red Metallic, Magnaflow Cat-Back Exhaust, K&N Drop-in, Ford Bedliner, Tinted Windows, Steel Horse Billet Grill, Fabtech 3.5" Spindles, 1.5" rear blocks, 3" Body Lift, Lift Lips, 33/12.50/16.5 BFG AT's on 16.5x9.75 American Eagle 589's, Fabtech Performance Shocks, Sylvania Cool Blue Headlights
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2000 F150 XLT 4.6L V8 Auto, SuperCab, Torreador Red Metallic, Magnaflow Cat-Back Exhaust, K&N Drop-in, Ford Bedliner, Tinted Windows, Steel Horse Billet Grill, Fabtech 3.5" Spindles, 1.5" rear blocks, 3" Body Lift, Lift Lips, 33/12.50/16.5 BFG AT's on 16.5x9.75 American Eagle 589's, Fabtech Performance Shocks, Sylvania Cool Blue Headlights
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My first guess would be the body lift, But if you have that coverd! check and see if your rims are the same off-set. This might sound dumb buy you never what happens at those tire shops!
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1998 F150 Triton 5.4L (4x2)
K&N Air Filter
Pioneer 4100 W/remote
2\10" Rockford Fosgate Punch He. RFP4310
CatBack system with Magnaflow system 3" Pipe
3" Performance Acc. Body lift, with lift lips
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1998 F150 Triton 5.4L (4x2)
K&N Air Filter
Pioneer 4100 W/remote
2\10" Rockford Fosgate Punch He. RFP4310
CatBack system with Magnaflow system 3" Pipe
3" Performance Acc. Body lift, with lift lips
the front driverside is in also, and the passenger side front is out? If the front of the truck is the same as the back, I would guess that is has always been like that and you can just tell now more with the wider tires...
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00 f150 ext. cab 4x4 ORP w/5.4/auto, black! Tan buckets, expy center console, tinted windows, westin nerf bars, flowmaster 40 series, remote start/alarm/keyless entry, headlight/taillight covers, Lund wiper cowl, vent visors, tono cover
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99 black f150 4x2 ext. cab sport w/4.6 V8. external mods. include:
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Pioneer indash cdplayer, 2 12" subs, 400 watt amp, remote start, and aftermarket alarm
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NEW TRUCK!
00 f150 ext. cab 4x4 ORP w/5.4/auto, black! Tan buckets, expy center console, tinted windows, westin nerf bars, flowmaster 40 series, remote start/alarm/keyless entry, headlight/taillight covers, Lund wiper cowl, vent visors, tono cover
old truck
99 black f150 4x2 ext. cab sport w/4.6 V8. external mods. include:
3" body lift, 3.5" fabtech lift, airaid FIPK, JBA headers, Superchip headlight/taillight covers, wiper schroud, shadeblade, ventshade, bug deflector, bed liner, tonno cover, and custom duel exhaust out the sides with 3.5" chrome tips and NO muffler. Tires: Mickey Thompson Baja HP 35 12.50 17 internal mods. include:
Pioneer indash cdplayer, 2 12" subs, 400 watt amp, remote start, and aftermarket alarm
http://www.4tssinc.com/truck
http://www.mifordtrucks.com
No the front of the truck is perfectly centered over the tires, each sticks out exactly the same. I have an appointment at 9am Saturday to get it checked, I'll let you know what happens
Thanks for everyone's help!
Derek
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2000 F150 XLT 4.6L V8 Auto, SuperCab, Torreador Red Metallic, Magnaflow Cat-Back Exhaust, K&N Drop-in, Ford Bedliner, Tinted Windows, Steel Horse Billet Grill, Fabtech 3.5" Spindles, 1.5" rear blocks, 3" Body Lift, Lift Lips, 33/12.50/16.5 BFG AT's on 16.5x9.75 American Eagle 589's, Fabtech Performance Shocks, Sylvania Cool Blue Headlights
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Thanks for everyone's help!
Derek
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2000 F150 XLT 4.6L V8 Auto, SuperCab, Torreador Red Metallic, Magnaflow Cat-Back Exhaust, K&N Drop-in, Ford Bedliner, Tinted Windows, Steel Horse Billet Grill, Fabtech 3.5" Spindles, 1.5" rear blocks, 3" Body Lift, Lift Lips, 33/12.50/16.5 BFG AT's on 16.5x9.75 American Eagle 589's, Fabtech Performance Shocks, Sylvania Cool Blue Headlights
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Swap the two rear wheels and see if it still makes a difference. If it does, wheels, doesn't, it's something else. 
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[This message has been edited by FamilyRide (edited 03-23-2001).]
Hey man not much to worry about.. I know exactly why! Your profile says you have lift spindles. If they are made by fabtech, they are made to extend the wheel out about 1.5 inches to 2 inches. THis is a result of the lift spindles. Now there is not much you can do. It has nothing to do with a body lift.
my first question is this: are the tires tilted inward? Look from directly above the tire and see if it faces inward. My rear axle did a funny thing on my that i had never heard b4...it ended up looking like this:
front
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back
This is what happens when the two half shafts of the axle rotate different directions at the differntial housing. The result makes the right tire stick out further in the back and the left tire in the back tend to be further under the wheelwell. Although this happened to mine...it CAN just happen to one side or tire. If you suspect this is what's happening, have someone drive behind you, see if, from their view, your truck appears to be driving "sideways" (meaning the back seems to be slightly farther to the right (or left in inversed situations) than the front.) If this is a problem you also might notice that you must turn the steering wheel slightly to the side to compensate when going straight.
If this is not the problem, then measure from the rear brakes to the ubolts on each side of the rear axle. Make sure those #s are the same or very close. Make sure your leafsprings appear to be in line with each other and the brackets (indicating loose or sheared spring bolts)and not in an abnormal shape (indicating axle-wrap).
Hope this helps some, if i think of something else, i'll let ya know...
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-Brandon Warford
97 F150 4x4 Sport Brt. Red SuperCab
4.6l Triton V8
3.55LS
3" Performance Acc. Body Lift & lift lips
1-1.5" torsion bar adjust. so it sits level
Clear Corner Lenses
315/75R16 Yoko. Geolander MTs
American Racing Atlas 16x10
Pioneer 8000 3D series
Boston Acoustic 5x7s
Sony Xplode 4ch Amp
(2) 8" RF XLC Subs
True Dual Exhaust
--(2) Stage 3 Flows (Exits like the Lightning)
Custom 4x4 Sticker
Viper Alarm
FUTURE MODS:
4.56 gears
Repaint around Headlights where clearcoat is coming off >=(
Possibly a Manik Brush Guard and Roll Bar--we'll see
Thats about it for now!
Killintime4fun@aol.com
"THROUGH the river and OVER the woods to grandmother's house we go."
"...the road curves to the right and there are a lot of signs that say you cannot turn left...TURN LEFT."
[This message has been edited by BigBadRedLiftedFordMan (edited 03-24-2001).]
front
|---|
/---/
back
This is what happens when the two half shafts of the axle rotate different directions at the differntial housing. The result makes the right tire stick out further in the back and the left tire in the back tend to be further under the wheelwell. Although this happened to mine...it CAN just happen to one side or tire. If you suspect this is what's happening, have someone drive behind you, see if, from their view, your truck appears to be driving "sideways" (meaning the back seems to be slightly farther to the right (or left in inversed situations) than the front.) If this is a problem you also might notice that you must turn the steering wheel slightly to the side to compensate when going straight.
If this is not the problem, then measure from the rear brakes to the ubolts on each side of the rear axle. Make sure those #s are the same or very close. Make sure your leafsprings appear to be in line with each other and the brackets (indicating loose or sheared spring bolts)and not in an abnormal shape (indicating axle-wrap).
Hope this helps some, if i think of something else, i'll let ya know...
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-Brandon Warford
97 F150 4x4 Sport Brt. Red SuperCab
4.6l Triton V8
3.55LS
3" Performance Acc. Body Lift & lift lips
1-1.5" torsion bar adjust. so it sits level
Clear Corner Lenses
315/75R16 Yoko. Geolander MTs
American Racing Atlas 16x10
Pioneer 8000 3D series
Boston Acoustic 5x7s
Sony Xplode 4ch Amp
(2) 8" RF XLC Subs
True Dual Exhaust
--(2) Stage 3 Flows (Exits like the Lightning)
Custom 4x4 Sticker
Viper Alarm
FUTURE MODS:
4.56 gears
Repaint around Headlights where clearcoat is coming off >=(
Possibly a Manik Brush Guard and Roll Bar--we'll see
Thats about it for now!
Killintime4fun@aol.com
"THROUGH the river and OVER the woods to grandmother's house we go."
"...the road curves to the right and there are a lot of signs that say you cannot turn left...TURN LEFT."
[This message has been edited by BigBadRedLiftedFordMan (edited 03-24-2001).]
JSL... read the description of his problem again. The Fabtech spindles are NOT the cause! His problem is that one of the REAR tires/wheels is sticking farther out than the other REAR tire/wheel. It has nothing to do with the FRONT spindles.
You sure you're not a Chevy mechanic?

[This message has been edited by JonC (edited 03-24-2001).]
You sure you're not a Chevy mechanic?

[This message has been edited by JonC (edited 03-24-2001).]
Glad i could be of some help. I had to take mine to several different places. The first 3 i took it to, had no idea what the problem was. The last one was a place called Pyle Brothers in Baytown, TX and they knew immediately. They only deal with differentials and axles. They called my problem "axle tweaking" or when the axle becomes "torqued". I hope this helps ya out...you can search for my original posts before i figured out the problem in this 'Suspension' forum...let me know how it turns out...
P.S.- I feel ya on one day enjoying your truck. I don't think i've literally gone more than a month without having another problem. However, when i asked several shops about whether they see any more Fords than Chevy's and Dodge's...they always said they they all have problems, and that they see just as many other brands as fords...so maybe i'll still stick with Ford next time again...
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-Brandon Warford
97 F150 4x4 Sport Brt. Red SuperCab
4.6l Triton V8
3.55LS
3" Performance Acc. Body Lift & lift lips
1-1.5" torsion bar adjust. so it sits level
Clear Corner Lenses
315/75R16 Yoko. Geolander MTs
American Racing Atlas 16x10
Pioneer 8000 3D series
Boston Acoustic 5x7s
Sony Xplode 4ch Amp
(2) 8" RF XLC Subs
True Dual Exhaust
--(2) Stage 3 Flows (Exits like the Lightning)
Custom 4x4 Sticker
Viper Alarm
FUTURE MODS:
4.56 gears
Repaint around Headlights where clearcoat is coming off >=(
Possibly a Manik Brush Guard and Roll Bar--we'll see
Thats about it for now!
Killintime4fun@aol.com
"THROUGH the river and OVER the woods to grandmother's house we go."
"...the road curves to the right and there are a lot of signs that say you cannot turn left...TURN LEFT."
[This message has been edited by BigBadRedLiftedFordMan (edited 03-24-2001).]
P.S.- I feel ya on one day enjoying your truck. I don't think i've literally gone more than a month without having another problem. However, when i asked several shops about whether they see any more Fords than Chevy's and Dodge's...they always said they they all have problems, and that they see just as many other brands as fords...so maybe i'll still stick with Ford next time again...
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-Brandon Warford
97 F150 4x4 Sport Brt. Red SuperCab
4.6l Triton V8
3.55LS
3" Performance Acc. Body Lift & lift lips
1-1.5" torsion bar adjust. so it sits level
Clear Corner Lenses
315/75R16 Yoko. Geolander MTs
American Racing Atlas 16x10
Pioneer 8000 3D series
Boston Acoustic 5x7s
Sony Xplode 4ch Amp
(2) 8" RF XLC Subs
True Dual Exhaust
--(2) Stage 3 Flows (Exits like the Lightning)
Custom 4x4 Sticker
Viper Alarm
FUTURE MODS:
4.56 gears
Repaint around Headlights where clearcoat is coming off >=(
Possibly a Manik Brush Guard and Roll Bar--we'll see
Thats about it for now!
Killintime4fun@aol.com
"THROUGH the river and OVER the woods to grandmother's house we go."
"...the road curves to the right and there are a lot of signs that say you cannot turn left...TURN LEFT."
[This message has been edited by BigBadRedLiftedFordMan (edited 03-24-2001).]
Well, after all that, it's been fixed.
They said that the body just "shifted" a bit, maybe a hard bump I might have hit or something. They loosened and re-torqued everything and said it's as good as new. They also said that the first 20 days of any lift can cause these types of problems, and I was supposed to bring it back in to get everything re-tightened anyways.
So for now...I'm going to drive it around for a few more hours (getting the old
11 mpg) until my next problem. Talk to you then! Thanks again.
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2000 F150 XLT 4.6L V8 Auto, SuperCab, Torreador Red Metallic, Magnaflow Cat-Back Exhaust, K&N Drop-in, Ford Bedliner, Tinted Windows, Steel Horse Billet Grill, Fabtech 3.5" Spindles, 1.5" rear blocks, 3" Body Lift, Lift Lips, 33/12.50/16.5 BFG AT's on 16.5x9.75 American Eagle 589's, Fabtech Performance Shocks, Sylvania Cool Blue Headlights
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They said that the body just "shifted" a bit, maybe a hard bump I might have hit or something. They loosened and re-torqued everything and said it's as good as new. They also said that the first 20 days of any lift can cause these types of problems, and I was supposed to bring it back in to get everything re-tightened anyways.
So for now...I'm going to drive it around for a few more hours (getting the old
11 mpg) until my next problem. Talk to you then! Thanks again.
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2000 F150 XLT 4.6L V8 Auto, SuperCab, Torreador Red Metallic, Magnaflow Cat-Back Exhaust, K&N Drop-in, Ford Bedliner, Tinted Windows, Steel Horse Billet Grill, Fabtech 3.5" Spindles, 1.5" rear blocks, 3" Body Lift, Lift Lips, 33/12.50/16.5 BFG AT's on 16.5x9.75 American Eagle 589's, Fabtech Performance Shocks, Sylvania Cool Blue Headlights
www.geocities.com/y2kf150
Jon-lol
Thanks guys! BigBadRedLifted, thanks for the tip, I took your description with me and gave it to the mechanic this morning. They are checking it as we speak, and I should have it back by 1:00 here so I'll post the verdict.
One of these days, I'll be able to begin enjoying the truck that has emptied my wallet and actually have it in my possession for more than a day!
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2000 F150 XLT 4.6L V8 Auto, SuperCab, Torreador Red Metallic, Magnaflow Cat-Back Exhaust, K&N Drop-in, Ford Bedliner, Tinted Windows, Steel Horse Billet Grill, Fabtech 3.5" Spindles, 1.5" rear blocks, 3" Body Lift, Lift Lips, 33/12.50/16.5 BFG AT's on 16.5x9.75 American Eagle 589's, Fabtech Performance Shocks, Sylvania Cool Blue Headlights
www.geocities.com/y2kf150
Thanks guys! BigBadRedLifted, thanks for the tip, I took your description with me and gave it to the mechanic this morning. They are checking it as we speak, and I should have it back by 1:00 here so I'll post the verdict.
One of these days, I'll be able to begin enjoying the truck that has emptied my wallet and actually have it in my possession for more than a day!
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2000 F150 XLT 4.6L V8 Auto, SuperCab, Torreador Red Metallic, Magnaflow Cat-Back Exhaust, K&N Drop-in, Ford Bedliner, Tinted Windows, Steel Horse Billet Grill, Fabtech 3.5" Spindles, 1.5" rear blocks, 3" Body Lift, Lift Lips, 33/12.50/16.5 BFG AT's on 16.5x9.75 American Eagle 589's, Fabtech Performance Shocks, Sylvania Cool Blue Headlights
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