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Front End Levelling...

Old Sep 15, 2000 | 11:09 PM
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Has anyone out there lifted just the front end to give the truck a more level stance?

If so, could you please provide me with the details of the job (parts used, cost etc.)

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Old Sep 15, 2000 | 11:13 PM
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I would like to know to. Can I just tighten up the torsion bars?

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Old Sep 16, 2000 | 07:01 PM
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I tried to have Desert Rat do the same for me. I was told, however, that Ford changed the design of the torsion bars in that you need a special adjusting tool to crank them, and that most places have not gotten that tool from Ford. Not sure if that makes sense, but that is what I was told anyway. So I couldn't get mine adjusted. Of course, if you manage to get them adjusted, then make sure you get a front end alignment too.
 
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Old Sep 16, 2000 | 09:53 PM
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easier to lower the back to level out.. I just used a 2" drop kit (shackles)



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Old Sep 16, 2000 | 10:41 PM
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One50npump,

I'm actually trying to keep the truck up high rather than low.

I noticed that you have the cat-back system. Did you buy a kit or have it custom installed? If it was a kit did it work well?

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Old Sep 19, 2000 | 12:30 AM
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On the 4X4, the adjustment is between the doors under the truck. Takes an 18mm socket to adjust. I measured each wheelwell from floor to bottom of fender.,front and rear. Then climbed under and turned a flat or two on each and re-measured. each again. Kept doing this until i got as close as possible. Got them within 3/4". Yes, had to have alignment adjusted, but that was under warranty anyway because I wasn't happy with the wandering.

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Old Sep 19, 2000 | 03:47 PM
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1stnuford-
My main question is how was the handling affected after the leveling?
You also said you got them within 3/4" of each other.. i assume you mean front and rear not left and right?
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Old Sep 20, 2000 | 09:40 AM
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1stnuford

Did the realignment control the wandering? Just wondering (ha). I also would like to know how it handles (corners & bumps) now that it has been raised. TIA.

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Old Sep 20, 2000 | 02:46 PM
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Sorry for the late reply. Had to deal with a Hurricane.
The leveling was within 3/4" front to rear,yes. That was the best I could get and still have some torsional movement.Handling wasn't affected. Maybe a slightly firmer ride,but un-noticeable now.
No, the front end alignment did not take care of the wandering. The tires are definitely the problem. Now the issue is resolving it. I'm going to research Goodyear's policy and try to resolve thru Ford/Goodyear. If not, the tires will be for sale.............
Hey S-freak, let me know how the Airforce induction works. I am considering one. They seem to have the best appearance. And follow the instructions closely on the s-chip. I posted a complete walk-thru of my installation a while back. You may want to search for and review. Just some helpful tips. Got to go, another storm is brewing! Ain't Florida great!! U gotta luv it !!

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Old Sep 21, 2000 | 10:20 AM
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1stnuford

Thanks for the report. I will probably be contacting Goodyear for some resolution also. I have heard that one poster received full retail value from Goodyear in return for some Goodyear AT(?)'s. I think they are more of a road tire than off-road, but they couldn't be any worse than the RT/S.

I like the Airforce One. I drove for awhile with the A-One before installing my Superchip (last night). I don't know if I felt any improvement in acceleration. I think my computer is still adjusting to that and now to the Superchip. I reset it, but it may take awhile like it did after I got the Flowmasters.

A-One was easy to install. I like the S&B filter better than the K&N because the air can flow thru the end of the filter also, hopefully pulling some cool air out of the fenderwell. I think it puts a little pressure on the hood, and I still may need to make some adjustments to lower it some more. But overall I'm pleased. I will report in a few weeks on performance and gas mileage (I would have a report on gas mileage with just the A-One with no Superchip, but when I reset my computer, I forgot to write down the mileage on the trip odometer. I hate that digital crap!). I am also going to check and make sure that no dust is entering the throttle body. I'm a little concerned about that after hearing about it with K&N.

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Old Sep 29, 2000 | 03:05 PM
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Well Thank-You for the idea here!! I took the advice of "1stnuford" and glad I did. Wow, what a difference. My Supercrew drives like it should now. No more dipping of the front fenders in corners and hard braking. My rig feels like a truck and looks like a truck should. I get a touch more feedback from the wheel but I'd prefer that over the Licoln Town Car feeling any day and it's nice to know whats going on down below. My steering is more crisp and precise too(the Bilstein shocks help alot too).I highly recomend thsi cheap modification..Just a note, my Supercrew was set up at the factory with way,way too much toe-out. Might want those tires for wear and alignments boys and girls. :0)
 
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Old Sep 29, 2000 | 03:45 PM
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Hey ptfii, shoot me an email, if you will, when you have a chance. arobbins@mail.liberty.k12.mo.us I've been considering this mod., but a Ford tech scared me away from it. Who did it? How much? How will it affect the torsion bars & tires? Thanks.

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Old Oct 1, 2000 | 11:06 AM
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1stnuford,

This may seem like a crazy question, but are you tightening or loosening the bolt?

Also, is it bringing the front up or the back down? I like how tall the rear is, but I'd like to raise the front. Will this mod accomplish that?

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Old Oct 2, 2000 | 01:27 PM
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well, this modification has created a new problem for me.I am finding that if I drive off a curb at speed (15mph) w/a little "air time" for the front wheel's suspension to fully extend, their is an obvious pop or bang coming from the front. My off-road guys here say its probably the combination of the torsion bars new riggidity and the Bilstein shocks creating a more powerfull force to get the tire down on the ground.Any thoughts? I've already backed off the bars closer to stock.Think a softer shock would help? I loved the way it handled with the torsion bars cranked a little more, but the sound makes me uncomfortable.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2000 | 06:29 PM
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What I've found out is this: if I raise the truck off the ground in the front and let the suspension completely extend itself, the shocks are now too short with the torsion bars tightened for more ride height.The shocks do not allow the rest of the suspension to even hit the bump stops.The sound I hear is actually the shock bottoming out from lack of travel under full extension.Big bummer, I really liked the way it looked and drove under normal conditions.I'm now looking for a longer shock option.
 
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